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Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install

Raviteja Newbie
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Hi,
We are currently running Oracle Application server 10g for applications developed using Oracle Forms/Reports and Oracle Portal and using OAM for authentication. I was told from support and in this forum that 11.1.1.6 is the version I need to use.
This will be the totally new installations on two new servers, one for Database which is already installed and another server for Fusion. We will move the apps latter.
As there are so many components in Fusion middleware, can someone help me what products I need to choose and the sequence of the installation?

Thanks in advance.


P.S. I've also asked for the same information on a old thread which is similar to my situation, please excuse me for that. I really need to get it done soon.

Edited by: Raviteja on Feb 28, 2013 5:06 PM
  • 1. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    Note [url https://support.oracle.com/CSP/main/article?cmd=show&type=NOT&id=1364497.1]1364497.1, 'New Direction for Oracle Fusion Middleware 11g with Single Sign-On 10g' is a good start. One important thing to keep in mind is certification. Oracle Forms & Reports cannot be installed in the same ORACLE_HOME as Oracle Portal because Forms & Reports 11.1.1.6 were not certified with OAM 11.1.1.5.

    Oracle Portal 11.1.1.6 is about the be certified with OAM 11.1.2. Forms and Reports 11.1.2 cane be used with OAM 11.1.2 as well. So you would need to install :

    <ol>
    <li> Oracle Internet Directory 11.1.1.6
    <li> Oracle Access Manager 11.1.2
    <li> Oracle Portal 11.1.1.6
    <li> Oracle Forms & Reports 11.1.2
    </ol>

    Note [url https://support.oracle.com/CSP/main/article?cmd=show&type=NOT&id=1436807.1]1436807.1,'How to Perform a New Installation of Oracle Portal 11g With Oracle Access Management 11g as Single Sign-On Solution ?' provides a detailed description of installation of Oracle Portal with OAM 11.1.16. The steps for OAM 11.1.2 are almost identical. Keep in mind however that the environment is not yet supported !

    Thanks,
    EJ
  • 2. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Hi Erik,
    Thank you for your post. Do I need to install webserver first like the weblogic server or does it come with one of these products?

    Thank you
  • 3. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    WebLogic Server needs to be installed first as it lays out you middleware homes. Later on you can add products such as OID, OAM and Portal to their middleware home.

    Note :

    Should you want to install everything on one server, I'd advise to have separate middleware homes for each product :

    <ul>
    <li>WLS 10.3.6 + OID 11.1.1.6</li>
    <li>WLS 10.3.6 + OAM 11.1.2</li>
    <li>WLS 10.3.6 + Portal 11.1.1.6</li>
    <li>WLS 10.3.6 + Forms & Reports 11.1.2</li>
    </ul>

    Reasons :

    <ul>
    <li>OID and Portal patch set releases are not always synchronised. Separating them out in different middleware homes will allow you to patch the products individually</li>
    <li>OID and OAM should not share the same domain and middleware home - I am not aware about the reason anymore
    </ul>

    Thanks,
    EJ
  • 4. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Hi Erik,
    Thank you for your update and I'm sorry for the delay.
    Would I be running 4 instances of the WLS 10.3.6 installed in each one of those 4 homes or do I install it in one home and configure all products to use it?
    I've downloaded the following list of components.
    -----------------------------------------------
    Name of the software component                                             Part no/filename on Oracle E-Delivery
    Oracle Portal, Forms, Reports and Discoverer 11g (11.1.1.2.0) for Microsoft Windows x86 (64-bit) (Part 1 of 4)      V18785-01 Part 1 of 4
    Oracle Portal, Forms, Reports and Discoverer 11g (11.1.1.2.0) for Microsoft Windows x86 (64-bit) (Part 2 of 4)      V18785-01 Part 2 of 4      
    Oracle Portal, Forms, Reports and Discoverer 11g (11.1.1.2.0) for Microsoft Windows x86 (64-bit) (Part 3 of 4)      V18785-01 Part 3 of 4      
    Oracle Portal, Forms, Reports and Discoverer 11g (11.1.1.2.0) for Microsoft Windows x86 (64-bit) (Part 4 of 4)      V18785-01 Part 4 of 4      
    Oracle Portal, Forms, Reports and Discoverer 11g Patch Set 5 (11.1.1.6.0) for Microsoft Windows x86 (64-bit)      V29850-01
    Oracle WebLogic Server 11gR1 (10.3.5) Generic and Coherence      V26046-01      
    Identity Management (11.1.1.6.0) Microsoft Windows x86-64                               ofm_idm_win_11.1.1.6.0_64_disk1_1of1.zip
    Oracle Identity and Access Management 11g (11.1.1.5.0)                                    V26461-01
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Did I miss anything?

    Also, you have advised me to install in this order
    1) Oracle Internet Directory 11.1.1.6
    2) Oracle Access Manager 11.1.2
    3) Oracle Portal 11.1.1.6
    4) Oracle Forms & Reports 11.1.2

    Can you please clarify this, I install WLS first and follow that order or install WLS at the end?

    Thanks in advance.
  • 5. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    Hello Raviteja,

    From a technical point of view, you can share the MW_HOME for all these products. I would however advise against it as these products have different release dates for patch sets. You may find yourself in a situation where you need to patch OID to 11.1.1.7 but you may not be albe to do so as the Portal patch is not yet available. So my advise : install WLS four times and create separate MW_HOMEs for the products.

    And WLS is always the 2nd thing to install before you install any of the other products. The WLS install will lay out the MW_HOME. I'd definitely recommend to go through the [url http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23943_01/core.1111/e10103/toc.htm]Oracle® Fusion Middleware Concepts Guide as it provides a lot of explanation about MW_HOME, ORACLE_HOMEs, instances, domains etc in a very condensed form.

    And you may have noticed that i mentioned 2nd thing above. The first thing is obviously to install the Java version as per the [url http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/downloads/fmw-11gr1certmatrix.xls]certification info (Excel document).

    Thanks,
    EJ
  • 6. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Erik,
    Thanks for the update. Will go through that document and get back to you if I have any questions.

    Thanks
  • 7. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Hi Erik,
    I appreciate your advise and I've been on this route as you've advised. I've one quick questions about using node manager to start weblogic servers,
    do I need to run and use one node manager for each middleware home or one node manager can handle startups/monitoring of weblogic servers on all middleware homes?

    Thank you.
  • 8. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    hahaha, don't get me started about that. I had the exact same issue and configured one nodemanager for each server. That did not work and I finally ended up re-installing the software. As it is a test machine I did not bother as I have start/stop scripts for all components. Log a ticket with Oracle Support to ask for advise.
  • 9. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Thanks Erik, Just found out that 11.1.1.7 has been released. As I'm going as per your advise and as per the doc# 1436807.1, do you think 11.1.1.7 would be a good idea?

    Thank you
  • 10. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    11.1.1.7 was certified with OAM 11.1.2 so you should be able to install it.
  • 11. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    Thanks for the quick update, since I need to run both Portal and Forms/Reports applications,
    would you recommend three different Middleware homes like

    WLS 10.3.6+ OAM 11.1.2
    WLS 10.3.6+ Portal 11.1.1.7
    WLS 10.3.6+ Forms/Reports 11.1.1.7

    or two Middleware homes like
    WLS 10.3.6+ OAM 11.1.2
    WLS 10.3.6+ Portal/Forms/Reports 11.1.1.7

    Also, do I need IDM in separate home as advised in doc 1436807.1 ?

    Thank you
  • 12. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    Go with three :

    WLS 10.3.6+ OAM 11.1.2
    WLS 10.3.6+ Portal 11.1.1.7
    WLS 10.3.6+ Forms/Reports 11.1.2

    Note that you need to use Forms/Reports 11.1.2 instead of 11.1.1.7 to ensure that you can use OAM.

    Thanks,
    EJ
  • 13. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Raviteja Newbie
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    I apologize, I typed OAM 11.1.2 but I meant OAM 11.1.7, just wanted to clarify if I could go with OAM 11.1.7 instead.

    Also, do I still need to go through the steps in 1436807.1 that talk about copying 10g R3 SSO etc?

    Thank you
  • 14. Re: Fusion Middleware 11g-11.1.1.6  components needed and order of Install
    Erik Janssen Pro
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    I would not take OAM 11.1.1.7 as you won't be in the position to consume the DAS related patch once it is released. This patch will be available for OAM 11.1.2+

    if you want to do a new install of Portal with OAM as described in Note 1436807.1, you will have to install an 10.1.4 SSO/OID as per the directions in the Note.
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