I totally agree. Is there a way or option to disable these? I am a technical person and do not like these stuff either.
Some of the header content is dynamic and probably based on a modular design. There might not be an option to really save a lot of space. However, one could probably save 1,5 cm by removing the search field and make it a link or menu option, opening the advanced search page instead, and write OTN Community in one line. The ergonomic design of the site has generally much left to be desired.
Yea as you say, there are cons and pros in the new oracle forum. Anyways,I love the new look and easy to use feel...
But as for you the con may definitely be the big logo , as it consuming 40% of the page.. Only helpful hint can give you is, Increase the resolution if you can.
This big logo just pisses me off every now and then . I don't what was the exact pros of having this. I seriously question the wisdom of having it!!
Using a screen ruler program, it appears that the header is 150px or so, or 15% on my screen.
Go to a space and look at the overview tab. On my screen, the first activity item is well over half way down - as well as the large logo area, there's all the headings etc before you get to any content. On top of that, the right and left columns take up about 1/4 of the width of my widescreen - reduce the width of the browser and you pretty much lose the activity list.
Your viewing area and how much the size of the header will occupy depends on your vertical screen resolution. If you use 640 x 480, for instance, the OTN banner will take about 70 % of the screen. It seems the page was designed for modern high resolution displays with a vertical resolution of 1200 pixels or more in mind. But even then, I agree, some space could be saved and ergonomic aspects improved, as previously mentioned. Whether it can save an inch, I doubt it.
I might be wrong, but I remember that there was some talk about a smartphone interface in regard to the forum software update. Perhaps Jive has one. Such interfaces usually omit the banner information and provide a minimal design.
On my laptop 17" inches screen, definition 1440x900, I must admit the header is just grabbing a lot of space:
* in a discussion: top red useless space+number of replies space+thread title horrible big, it's easily about 50% of the screen.
* in a discussion list: I only see the last two threads in overview tab, and the last 5 in the content tab. And yes, the left frame is taking about 25% of the widescreen.
There's also a lot of wasting space between each comment within a discussion, that make me scrolling a lot.
That' rather annoying, to be political correct. Is there 21" (or more ?) screen recommendation to use the new forum ?
Without saying the used red on top of the page is really like fireworks with all those people seeing in the cloud...
Fireworks... I wonder how much they see. LOL. Or maybe it just rains for some, and others are happy. It seems the developers had high hopes though.
FWIW: Here is a comparison of the old and new OTN interface http://www.freeimagehosting.net/8stto
Those are screenshots I made prior to the upgrade. I don't know how accurate they are, but it should be good enough.
1. what are the pros of big header?
2. My screen resolution is 1680 x 1050.. do you mean I need even better resolution?
Do you have comparison for detail page i.e. discussion around one question.. (not the thread list page)
I'm not sure if it was really a screenshot or PDF printout, but it should show the right proportions:
The left and right side of the image compare the current and past appearance. It's the same message. I just wiped out the actual content, just in case. It's not necessary for the purpose of this demo.
So it looks like the header is not really the problem, but the layout of the new interface shows less information, overall using more space to display the same content. Some of the content, which I consider useful, is actually missing.
We've heard this a lot, especially from tablet users. We will be doing a design update later this summer, and we will definitely be taking that into account.