6 Replies Latest reply on Jun 26, 2013 2:03 PM by RyanGardner

    Upgrade from 3.5.1 to

      When upgrading to from 3.5 we are getting the following error. Any help in resolving this issue is appreciated. Central issue appears to be the tangosol-coherence-override.xml file. Did the schema for this change from 3.5 to 3.7?

      services2_dev7_1_nykpsr5940-STDOUT.log.040513-093959:2013-04-05 09:16:45.455 Oracle Coherence <Error> (thread=[ACTIVE] ExecuteThread: '18' for queue: 'weblogic.kernel.Default (self-tuning)'): Error org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting with element 'edition-name'. One of '{"http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":interface, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":address, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":port, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":time-to-live, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":packet-buffer, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":priority, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":join-timeout-milliseconds, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":multicast-threshold-percent}' is expected. - line 13
      services2_dev7_1_nykpsr5940-STDOUT.log.040513-093959:2013-04-05 09:16:45.456 Oracle Coherence <Error> (thread=[ACTIVE] ExecuteThread: '18' for queue: 'weblogic.kernel.Default (self-tuning)'): Error org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content was found starting with element 'configurable-cache-factory-config'. One of '{"http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":security-config, "http://xmlns.oracle.com/coherence/coherence-operational-config":license-config}' is expected.

      Edited by: user9967589 on Apr 5, 2013 10:23 AM
        • 1. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to

          In 3.7 the various XML files will be validated using the XSD files embedded in the Coherence jar, so the XML now has to be valid. In the past as long as the required elements were present it did not really matter what order they were in but now it does.

          If you have an override file then you need to validate it against the schema. It is possible to make Coherence skip validation of the schema but this can just mean it takes longer to find those subtle configuration errors.

          • 2. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to
            Hi JK,
            We are going to upgrade Coherence from 3.3.1 to 3.7.1 within enterprise applications , what's the key to be considered by your experience?

            Edited by: zhaoxuebin on May 22, 2013 6:21 AM
            • 3. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to
              Wow, that is quite a jump in versions. Without knowing anything about your application it is impossible to say what issues you might see. If you use Coherence as a simple put/get cluster then you might do the migration very easily. If you use a lot of complex features (or non-public API features) then you might have a lot more work.

              The first thing I normally do is just drop in the Coherence jar and see if application will build (and hopefully you have a nice suite of unit/acceptance tests so you can run these too).

              • 4. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to
                JK - yes, that's quite a jump in versions, and our huge enterprise application heavily uses the Coherence as core data cache/grid solution.
                Hope you can share some more detailed information ? you know there is very few information and guidance on the topic of migration of Coherence on internal or external websites.
                • 5. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to

                  We went from 3.1 to 3.7 - we got screwed by the fact that the partitions are done differently and take up more memory. On 3.1 we had hoardes of small (512mb) heap storage nodes that were using maybe 80% of their heap capacity - after the upgrade they started to fill up and go pop-goes-the-weasel on us until we repacked them onto fewer nodes with larger heaps. We were going to do the fewer nodes with larger heaps bit as part of the original 3.7 upgrade but we were told we didn't need to by a well-meaning support person who probably forgot about memory footprint changes in the distant past that we should not bother changing our memory footprint.


                  In 3.7 they removed a bunch of methods that had been deprecated since 3.2 or something - it wasn't that hard to find their equivalent new method calls.


                  There were some other undocumented changes - in 3.1 if you had a near cache and you did a cache.put(key, foo) it put it into both your near cache and the back cache. In a later version they changed that. We had some code in places that relied on those values being in the near cache so we had some strange bugs crop up in our testing. We had to literally follow that put with a subsequent get request to get it to actually populate the near cache - so now those near cache puts were more way more expensive (they were only in a few spots so it wasn't that big of a deal, but it was annoying that there was no way to configure it to act the old way of having cache.put() operations into a near cache actually populate a near cache)


                  The upgrade was good - if you are considering the upgrade because of stability I can say that for us 3.7 is way better than 3.1... or at least it was once we got the heaps sized better. 3.1 was really awful. 3.7 has been really solid. When we were stuck on 3.1 our lives were miserable.


                  In our installation we have seen a few lingering issues that haven't been fixed yet. There's one annoying issue where the storage nodes will go into crazy storms and send NIC-saturating blasts of duplicate packets at our client nodes at such a rate that our switches start to get overwhelmed and other services are impacted (we're talking 24 nodes each sending things at 1Gb speed towards 2 or 3 client nodes - it's a bug related to how multi-point packets are resent). We're hoping that will fix part of that when we put it on our live servers next week, but we're not holding our breath since we were told that to make storage nodes use flow control when dealing with resending multi-point packets is "too big of a change for a point release". (but we did have some amazing help from support in getting to the bottom of the problem - including one of the engineers writing his own custom packet filter to analyze our traffic dumps to figure out what was actually being sent out in these traffic storms - and other than the traffic storms 3.7 has performed well for us)


                  So my advice is: lean on oracle support, but realize that when it comes to upgrading ancient versions of coherence they probably don't remember what has changed since then. (Although 3.3 isn't as ancient as 3.1 was - we were one of the first coherence customers so there can't be that many other people who were on 3.1). So be sure to test things on your own as well.

                  • 6. Re: Upgrade from 3.5.1 to

                    Hmm... I could have sworn when I wrote this that this reply was in response to someone considering a 3.3 -> 3.7 upgrade... not a 3.5 -> 3.7 upgrade...