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    Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs


      Hello All


      We just migrated from to Our production is still up and running. I have a strange situation where all the BSO cubes on are occupying more space than the version. We load data daily and everything across the two environments is the same(MaxL scripts, Compression settings, essbase.cfg, the data). And yet one occupies 2 gb of space and the other occupies 10gb. Can someone please suggest what the reason could be. When I restructure the BSO cube the size reduces, but I do not understand why I have to do that as I did not have to do it with the old environment.



        • 1. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

          OK, I am totally confused.  Didn't this question already get posted with replies from John G and Celvin?  It seems to have disappeared completely now.


          For what it's worth, John directed you to this thread: Database Restructure ignoring NUMBLOCKSTOEXTEND Configuration Setting


          I would try setting NUMBLOCKSTOEXTEND to 1 and seeing what size you get after your daily build.  Not saying this a good default in general (I still don't understand when that setting is supposed to be useful) but would demonstrate whether or not this is the root cause.

          • 2. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

            Here it is...


            Restructing Essbase Database question


            I'm even more confused now.  I swear I couldn't find it five minutes ago.  I've only had two cups of coffee this morning, that's my excuse.

            • 3. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

              At least I don't have to write the same reply again






              • 4. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                Am Sorry John, Tim, I saw John's reply on the other post only after I posted this one. Will test with the recommended settings. Thanks to all of you! Relieved that there are many posts regarding this. I did search but could not arrive at the exact threads. Thanks again.

                • 5. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs
                  Celvin Kattookaran

                  Oracle Gods are unhappy, we'll have to face the wrath







                  • 6. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                    Tim/John I did test with the recommended setting


                    NUMBLOCKSTOEXTEND  appname dbname 1

                    with no reduction in disk space. I did restart essbase after making changes to essbase.cfg

                    Even after following the thread on network54 the OP there did not arrive at a solution. Will be logging it with oracle but is there something else you recommend.




                    Message was edited by: Teddd

                    • 7. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                      Hi Ted - that's interesting.  Could you post the following stats (before the restructure, i.e. at the point at which you are seeing the discrepancy) for the same cube on both boxes?


                      Block size

                      Total block count

                      Fragmentation Quotient

                      Average Clustering Ratio (although technically I don't think this should matter in isolation)

                      Compression Ratio

                      Block Density

                      Total .pag file size


                      My thought is that it's one of three things - a lot of genuinely unused space in the .pag files (caused by a behaviour change like NUMBLOCKSTOEXTEND), much increased fragmentation, or a calc is now creating a lot of empty blocks which are cleared by the explicit restructure.


                      I'm not 100% clear, is this a full reset / load / calc every day?  And whatever the process, at exactly which point do you notice the size difference?



                      • 8. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                        Hi Tim,


                        here are the statistics




                        Block Size 95648B                                                        95648B


                        Number Of Existing Blocks: 190496                               112535 

                        Potential Number of Blocks: 6944160                              6944160

                        Avg Fragm Quotient:(Using ESSCMD): 28.59524             32.16586

                        Average Clustering Ratio:  0.38                                       0.44

                        Compression Ratio:         0.01                                        0.02

                        Block Density:               0.61                                         1.23

                        Total Page Size             1.37gb                                     9.36gb             


                        And to answer your last question, yes we clear and load data everyday, this does not happen with just one application, but all the BSO applications we have. The above stats are from one such cube. The exact point is when we are loading the data(import database appname.dbname data is getting executed).

                        Thanks for looking into it.



                        • 9. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                          Hi Ted.  Thanks.  Surprised you have an almost 2x discrepancy in number of existing blocks, compression ratio and block density (although those last two always go together with bitmap compression).  Are these cubes supposed to be identical in terms of data and calculation?


                          Still, doesn't explain what you're seeing.  If those stats are to be believed (the fragmentation / compression stats are reputedly sampled) I can't see any reason for the total .pag size to be so much larger on the new cube - except if there's a lot more unused space in them.  Which sort of brings us back to NUMBLOCKSTOEXTEND, which you've already eliminated.


                          Very confusing.  Not helping you much either.

                          • 10. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                            They both do have the same data. Some of the people on the business side know that we just upgraded and so they are actually looking at reports from both the versions for any discrepancies and they think the upgrade went great!! They have no complaints whatsoever! I created a report and I couldn't finds any differences either with the data. I am logging this with Oracle.

                            • 11. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                              Why are num exist blocks different????


                              Dbl chk dese sparse export & reload see if shrinks

                              • 12. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                                it standart issue (in newest essbase ) if u startup from binary backup



                                  1) stop application

                                   2)  check compression setting in essbase properties

                                  3)  start essbase

                                  4)  restructure application




                                • 13. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                                  Hi Teddd have u logged this issue with oracle? Have u got any reply from them? We are also going for same king of upgradation proj. Please inform me the current status of the issue.

                                  • 14. Re: Essbase BSO Cube Sizes ( vs

                                    Hello user12509693, I have not logged it yet, have been having other more urgent upgrade issues, so will keep you posted on what I find.




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