That wouls be nice, but only if the name of the forum space is changed from:
Community Feedback and Suggestions (Do Not Post Product-Related Questions Here)
Community Feedback and Suggestions (Do Not Post Product-Related Questions Here, They Will Be Deleted without Notice)
The information that such posts will be deleted is currently one level too deep
and I sense that those who post here are too lazy to even get that far to see the text and will definitely not bother to read the announcement that tells them to find the correct location for their issue.
I agree with you Dude.
I think the problem is that people go to the first forum they see on the home page... which happens to be this one, and then they see the titles of other discussions, which just happen to look like product type questions, so they think they're in the right place to post theirs.... and it seems we're getting an increasing number of them.
Perhaps, if admin are accepting of it, we moderators could have a 'tidy up' and remove them so that there's not so many enticing similar thread titles on view. We'll have to check with admin though first.... though rukbat makes a good point.... it does say they will be deleted without notice... so that could mean we already have permission to do it... one for us mods to discuss I think.
By the way, according to the Jive 5 documentation the software apparently provides options to limit the frequency of posts and search for spam keywords and can use plugins such as Akismet. Speaking of it, I'm surprised the system does not use Captcha when posting, which would probably help to prevent SPAM.
When it's obvious I tend to move thread, but when I'm as lazy as the people posting product related question or when it's not obvious where it should go, then I lock it given them a chance for further understanding. But agreed, sometime that's irritating and we could also moderate more strongly by deleting such post.
As for the captcha on posting, that'll probably limit the spammers until they find a workaround, but also and especially annoying for the normal users who want a normal use of the forum. That should on subscription level : 1. captcha 2. email verification. As long as it's not there we'll have a bunch of crappy content once in a while.
The other problem with trying to 'move' content to a correct forum is that the Move option lets you type in the required forum name, but then we're presented with multiple choices of the same forum, one being the English version of the forum and other(s) being other languages such as the Korean forum.... but unfortunately there's no indication of which one is which, so moving a post is either pot luck, or more often just not feasible.
A lot of people don't come here because they think it is rude or scary. Perhaps being ruder and scarier might not be the correct response for that. Perhaps handling newbies with kid gloves and allowing more classic hacker-style in subspaces might be a better way. Or would varying behavioral expectations across the site be worse? I think there may be some of that already.
When moving posts, what I tend to do when presented with a list of spaces that all have the same name (e.g. "General Questions") in the move pop-up window is to right-click the link that I presume is the one I want and select to open in a new browser window - which then opens up the space in the new browser window and confirms to me that it is the right space. Annoying - but it is the only way I know to confirm if it is the right destination space.
I could think of several reason why somebody might post a product related question in a forum that clearly demands not to post any product related questions, but no good one. I doubt that somebody who knowingly and deliberately posts a product related question into this forum space would be susceptible to an educational message and common sense anyway.
Everybody here can read. I do not think this is a question of age and do not expect anyone to comply to protocols that I could not easily comply to myself. If I ever posted a product related question in this forum by accident, I would fully understand if it was simply deleted without notice.
I've had a response from monique (admin) to say we can tidy up the community feedback forum of the product related posts, and it appears that she has already been and deleted them.
I'm just checking with her for clarification, but I think she's giving us mods permission to just delete such posts if we cannot easily move it to a correct forum (i.e. if it's obvious it belongs in a specific forum we move it, but if it's not clear we can just delete it).
That being the case, we should be able to keep this forum a bit cleaner from now on.
Ignorance can be fixed with education, stupidity not so much. Not sure that the assumption of stupidity over ignorance is a good one. That seems to be the assumption when deleting without notice. I can understand it as a fix for moderator frustration, not so much as a policy decision.
I think the forum headline is absolutely clear and lack of education is not the problem. Posting a product related question in here is either by mistake or abuse. The forum policy needs to protect from abuse. If someone posts a product related question in here, they do not deserve any attention. Perhaps, to be politically correct, the forum space or headline could be changed to:
Community Feedback and Suggestions (Product-Related Questions Will Be Deleted!)
no. i wont agree on this point.
if a newbie do like this. my suggestion would be like this.
first level: just intimate it to the user. this is not right place.
second level: if he (or) she continues on the same thread. then just lock it.
third level: 1. if he (or) she continues in another thread. find it and delete it.
2. if he (or) she rule breaker then block the account. if it is abuse or else sales related.
i hope that nowdays forum admins,moderator not having much time to filter or iterate this much level.
you people saying lack of knowledge of whatever. but prior intimation will be fine from my perspective.
consider this as an example
if suppose if a new bie may be poor in understanding means, he just posting an question here which is not related to this forum. without any intimation if you deleted the thread.
then the he (or) she will again will created the same thread in same place. reason behind is he (or) she is new bie to this otn forum
he (or) she may thought thread is not updated/created correctly.