4 Replies Latest reply: Nov 15, 2013 8:49 AM by User9976634-Oracle RSS

    How to change Tray selection in the middle of overflowing sections


      We have situation where we have a form and the first page, an invoice, prints on perf paper, tray 1.  The second page consist of repeating sections and needs to start on the back side of the perf paper, but when it ejects to a new page due to overlow, we want that new page to print from a different tray.

      We looked at the Rule < OverflowPaperTray >, but that only seems to work for the start of the repeating sections forcing all of it to start on a new sheet.  But our customers don't want that.

      Is there any way to tell Documaker to pull from a different tray when the repeating sections overflow on to a new sheet? 

        • 1. Re: How to change Tray selection in the middle of overflowing sections
          Navin Kumar Ramaswamy

          The documentation says "This rule lets you print the first page of a form set on a special paper and the rest on different stock."

          I do not have access to verify tray options, however, i hope leaving Formname as empty can work.


          < OverflowPaperTray >

          FormName =


          Please try this out. thanks

          • 2. Re: How to change Tray selection in the middle of overflowing sections
            Gaétan Berthold

            You may want to have a look at using "forced overflow". For release 11.3, it is documented in the Documaker Server System Reference manual. With forced overflow, you can define "X" number of overflow records to print on form A and the rest of the overflow records to print on form B. Form A would be the back of the invoice, defined to use tray 1, and form B woud be defined to use the regular non-perf paper tray.


            Hope this helps,



            • 3. Re: How to change Tray selection in the middle of overflowing sections

              Thanks for the info, we will give that a try.

              • 4. Re: How to change Tray selection in the middle of overflowing sections

                The first printable section on the page determines certain attributes about your layout including the tray and duplex selections. It is important to note that "printable" does not necessarily mean there is anything on the section that actually prints. Therefore, you could have two dummy/placeholder sections at the top of your form - with no size or content. Specify them as headers and copy on overflow. Have the first one specify tray 1 and the second tray 2 (your trays may vary) along with the other page attributes that are important. You will need to specify recipients and triggers (if needed) for the sections - just like any section that you expect to print.


                Once pagination occurs those two headers will copy on overflow to the newly paginated pages.


                Use a PostTransDAL rule in your AFGJOB that runs a script that essentially does the following.


                while( HaveImage( "MyTray1Section\3", "MyForm") )

                     DelImage("MyTray1Section\3", "MyForm")



                Of course, you want to use your actual names for the tray controlling section and the form that contains it. Since you know that your form is duplex and that you only need 2 occurrences of the section, the  \3 designated on your section name means to find the 3rd occurrence of the section on the named form. You keep checking and deleting the 3rd occurrence until there are no more. At that point, your first sheet will have the necessary tray defined, but all succeeding sheets will now have what was your "second" tray controlling section now in charge and will print on a different tray.


                (It may be important to note that the \3 does not mean "third page" it means 3rd occurrence. Technically, you can have multiple occurrences of the same section on a single page and this is how you would reference them separately. That is why you don't change the \3 occurrence between deletes.  Although technically you are referencing the same section name, you are always looking for the 3rd occurrence to delete. Once they are gone, then only your first sheet will have the necessary section at the top.)