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15. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 7, 2016 10:56 AM (in response to Billy~Verreynne)

I'm aware of shift-click and remember that it did not work. I also could not use the mouse to scroll to the next page and had to click in the text and use the down arrow keys to move to the next page, which invalided the previous selection and hence shift-click did not work. I then figured that shift-arrow worked. I just tried to reproduce this and pasted a few paragraphs and lo and behold scrolling with the mouse is working. I also see a vertical scroll bar now. So who knows what's really going on here. I will post a screenshot next time it happens. Maybe one down, but 50 billion to go.
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16. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 7, 2016 1:48 PM (in response to Dude!)

Here's a screen shot of a response I just posted. Please don't worry about content, but it shows that there is no vertical scroll bar. I could not use the mouse, using mouse gesture or mouse wheel to scroll the text -- it would scroll the whole page instead. My only option left was to use the down arrow key. Hence, I have to use shift-arrow to select text past the next screen boundary.
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17. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

EdStevens Sep 7, 2016 2:33 PM (in response to Dude!)

Dude! wrote:

The only way I can make this work is by including some text that breaks the structured text logic and prevents the text to table conversion
Just to weigh in and vent . . . . I just spent well over an hour trying to post a message with content from a shell script. This was on the MOS space, but the same underlying software, so the same underlying POS editor.

Taking a hint from the above comment, the only way I could get it to not try to create a table was to write the entire message -- both the code content as well as my comments and questions -- in Notepad, then copy and paste the entire message.

FWIW, other suggestions to paste the code into a pure text editor like notepad, then copy and past from there, did not work. I had to add the 'non-code content' as well.
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18. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

jgarry Sep 8, 2016 6:20 PM (in response to Billy~Verreynne)

I don't think Dude! is too harsh at all. He's accurately describing the specific problem, and the more serious general problem that you need the basics to work.

Things are getting worse in general with more complicated tech stacks. I say, anyone putting out software in such a milieu has to be responsible for the consequences, and too bad if it is "hard." A lot of us were perfectly happy with usenet for technical discussions.

This morning I read that Qualcomm and AT&T are working on a protocol for controlling commercial drones over cellphone networks. What could possibly go wrong with that?
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19. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

EdStevens Sep 8, 2016 6:35 PM (in response to Dude!)

I just stumbled into a somewhat similar "issue" with the editor.

Copied some text from an oracle doc (https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e22490/dp_import.htm#SUTIL936 ) that included some bullet points. I switched on "advanced editor" to try to preserve the formatting (different fonts, bullets, etc). For the lines that were bullet points, only the bullet character pasted. I then had to copy the text of each bullet line, individually, and paste it in at the appropriate place.

I use the terms "editor" and "advanced editor" very charitably, simply because that is the official terminology.
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20. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 8, 2016 7:05 PM (in response to jgarry)

Luckily I don't need to print stuff....
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21. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

jgarry Sep 8, 2016 7:10 PM (in response to EdStevens)

Well you could always... ow, my eyes
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22. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 8, 2016 10:26 PM (in response to Billy~Verreynne)

I tested a few of the free rich text editors shown at http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2008/12/20-excellent-free-rich-text-editors/ . The list is obviously not up to date, and I only tested what does not work in the current editor, but so far the editors worked as expected. Unfortunately, none of these editors provide a push button for posting code, but there are free plugins or modules available, for example: SyntaxHighlighter - About. Nevertheless, this shows that creating an editor that works is technically possible.
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23. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 8, 2016 11:39 PM (in response to Dude!)

I found something that might explain the underlying issue:
https://www.element14.com/community/thread/31978/l/how-do-i-un-table-pasted-text?displayFullThread=true

The conversion from text to table is apparently happening if every line in the clipboard contains at least 4 consecutive spaces. In which case the software assumes you are pasting a table. Concluding, if any line does not contain 4 spaces, it should break the conversion. So I did the following:

Copy and paste the text into some text editor and add "a b" as the first line.
Then copy and paste the text including the first "a b" line into the forum editor.
Bingo, it no longer converted to a table -- it has to be the first line though!
You can then select the text and change it to Courier New and remove the "a b" thing.

It's a bit tricky, but at least manageable.

a b
Filesystem                     Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_root   20G 6.4G   12G 35% /
tmpfs                          7.7G 598M 7.1G   8% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1                      477M   97M 355M 22% /boot
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_home   33G 398M   31G   2% /home
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u01   4.8G 432M 4.2G 10% /u01
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u02    15G 2.1G   12G 15% /u02
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u03    30G 3.9G   25G 14% /u03
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24. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

jgarry Sep 8, 2016 11:52 PM (in response to Dude!)

Ha, that brought up memories of a favorite show. Later, some became bigger stars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP9dlTornbM
When I was a contract dba at a big site, some others were contracted to make some training videos. I suggested something similar might get their audience attention, but in the end they decided they didn't want to give people ideas
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25. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 9, 2016 2:34 AM (in response to jgarry)

I think it's all a setup. I guess you can tell by looking at how the people are typing on the keyboards.
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26. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Billy~Verreynne Sep 9, 2016 4:14 AM (in response to jgarry)

jgarry wrote:

A lot of us were perfectly happy with usenet for technical discussions.
I resemble that remark.
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27. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

Dude! Sep 9, 2016 4:21 AM (in response to Billy~Verreynne)

I guess the future always looked better in the past.
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28. Re: Is there any way to turn off text to table in the editor?

EdStevens Sep 9, 2016 12:41 PM (in response to Billy~Verreynne)

Billy~Verreynne wrote:

jgarry wrote:

A lot of us were perfectly happy with usenet for technical discussions.
I resemble that remark.
Yes. I think several of us here first "met" on usenet. I haven't been there in some time, but just now checked in on c.d.o.s and see it is still active, with recent posts by familiar names. And a lot of spam.
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