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I was one of those users who fight for this
I find using it however very
Let me give you real
1. Once you
create an order/contract and do not choose "New
Method" you cannot change approval method to new any
more. Imagine one of my users was creating an order
with 120 items (hell of typing!) then she spotted that
she cannot send it with new review process to several
reviewers in sequence. The need for retyping it makes
5 other ppl already against this software, even if
they did not used it at all.
Document Owner has admin rights.
reason user needs to be document owner in order to
setup review process. Imagine in our situation usual a
site assistant, or junior person in technical office
is responsible for creating and typing all the
orders/contracts. So this person needs to be Document
Owner in order start review.
however can also approve/reject in name of other users
mentioned in review cycle. This I find strange and
make entire new review/approval cycle worthless, as
the situation is still that anyone can approve someone
on someone behalf with no control.
/>3. Alerts missing. I couldn't find an alert that
would be generated if a document is held internal (by
user) for more then ... x days.
/>4. I'm also missing a Project Setting for "all
documents must use new review process"; "defoult
reviewers is + 'All in sequence' + 'list of reviewers'
- for each kind of document.<br /><br />If
you want to force users to follow a strict
methodology, and your software gives them chance to
choose whomever they want, wherever they want, use any
approval method, approve on someone behalf ... you
will finally fail.<br /><br />I keep
hearing that Primavera sold thousand of licenses, and
they will develop this product, I just hope they will
hurry, before users switch to other software.<br
Thanks for all the info. We are
looking to upgrade from 11.1 to 12.0 in the next month
or so and I am very interested in how the approval
When you said
that the Document Owner can approve/reject in the name
of other users... Can the Document Owner also reopen
an approved or rejected document?
Sorry for late
Yes, Document Owner has
this ability, like Admin for particular document's
There is also a bug
in the new approval process - if you do not want to
set default owners in project settings (which I
believe no company will define) - when user who is not
Admin generates Change Order one is not able to select
document owner, so new approval process cannot be used
for this document.
this review process sounds I still have hope that
Primavera will improve it vastly in v 13.