jgarry wrote:Sorry, I may have used confusing words.
What old forum list pages?
rukbat wrote:And that was... when exactly?
As I think more on this, it indeed would be nice to just have it as it was (when fully functional).
Billy Verreynne wrote:
They should have dumped Jives years ago...For what, Google Groups? MOS Community? Apex hack? Facebook? [url http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-timberlake-myspace-20110701,0,4079429.story] MySpace?
jgarry wrote:Apex. And no hacks please. Apex is an extremely capable web framework.Billy Verreynne wrote:For what, Google Groups? MOS Community? Apex hack? Facebook? [url http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-timberlake-myspace-20110701,0,4079429.story] MySpace?
They should have dumped Jives years ago...
I think we all forget the volume of posts here, and don't know exactly how much or little support Oracle gives. It's easy to think we are capable of fixing it were we given access (and perhaps here many are), but we just don't know all the facts. We can guess it's not a profit center in a profit driven organization.Nobody is pointing the finger at Justin K and co. They are doing what they can with the resources available. But I would think that they would be the first to admit that OTN has outgrown Jives. That on-line communities and social networking have moved far beyond the feature set that Jives provide.
Billy Verreynne wrote:Somehow I have the feeling we'd want to throw out the mutant with the bath water if we saw it.
What's needed is some idea of the db model/structure used by Jives in order to put an Apex layer on top of it.
Not saying that all structures need to be used (believe that is has a separate indexing structure of postings). Oracle features (for text searching) can be used. But the table structures containing the forum names, watches, actual postings and so on.That's just data. Software comes and goes, data is (or should be) forever. Some software overstays its welcome, especially if it is named after a [url http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes]colorful form of speaking from the 1970s.
Also any config tables (like emoticons) that requires to be used when parsing a posting for rendering.Yes, design for performance. Do we have any clue Jive wasn't "designed" by developers?
The s/w will very much depend on what the underlying structure is. If a small subset of the actual Jives database for OTN can be used, so much better....