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10 Replies Latest reply: Sep 8, 2011 8:50 AM by Arie Geller RSS

Apex 4.1 Online Help

user38505 Newbie
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What happened to all the on-line help that was there in 4.0?!? Being referred to the Oracle documentation website when clicking on the help button seems pretty unusual!
  • 1. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    20020 Pro
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    Hi user8612375 (please tell us your name - we're a friendly group),

    I sent this question to the ApEx support team a couple weeks ago as I also found it very unusual (and not nearly as "help"-ful as before) - though my question referred specifically to the instance on apex.oracle.com. The reply was that this is the expected behavior for 4.1. I don't know if this is the way it works if I download and install it, as I haven't had a chance yet. I'm hoping this isn't the case - I sometimes take my laptop places where there is no internet connection and it's nice to have the help facility available locally.

    Regards,
    John
  • 2. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    483969 Newbie
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    Hi John & userX,

    yes, online documentation is gone. It's not even included in the APEX installer (ZIP).

    On positive side the APEX installer is now ~30MB smaller & you always see up-to-date documentation.

    And you can always download PDFs...

    Jan
  • 3. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    user38505 Newbie
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    Ok, so I changed my user name now.... Anyhow the lack of a "built in" help system seems pretty weak. I feel it's like buying a car, and then haveing to go on-line for the user manual of the car. The change from 4.0 to 4.1 wasn't that drastic, it would of taken little time to change the help. I mean sure, I never did get the search feature working for the help, but it was VERY VERY convenient to have the help at "my fingertips". As one of the better matured products from Oracle as of late, it just seems like a bit of a let down.
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    S-Max Newbie
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    I also would like to have had the Online Help inside in APEX and not Online!
    Improvement on the wrong side!
  • 5. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    jkallman Employee ACE
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    Thank you for giving me inspiration to write another blog post. I responded here: http://joelkallman.blogspot.com/2011/08/where-did-online-help-go-in-apex-41.html

    Thanks for your feedback, even if you think this is "improvement on the wrong side".

    Joel
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    tfa Explorer
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    I personally have not used the "help" documentation that ships with APEX for years. I've found I get answers to my questions faster by searching the on-line documentation and other resources. This is a move in the right direction for the reasons Joel states in his blog. I feel for users that do apex development not being connected to the internet.

    Regards,
    Todd
  • 7. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    Denis Segard-Oracle Expert
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    Hello,

    You can download the "Oracle Application Express 4.1 Documentation" here :

    http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/apex/application-express/apex-094287.html

    Then, you can , for example, create a CHM file or deploy it on a HTTP server

    Regards
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    trent Expert
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    I personally used the apex help quite frequently and thought it good that it was one of the products that made it available with the installation, and as such was a bit surprised when I saw Joels blog post about it this morning. Though, its no biggie - probably better to be sure users are accessing the latest help files.
  • 9. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    MatthiasHoys Explorer
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    I also was surprised to see that the documentation wasn't included anymore... not even some release notes or an installation guide. I personally find this a loss. I mean, for what reason? To save 30 MB download size?? I used to place the documentation locally on a shared server so the other developers could use this. We have a pretty slow internet connection at work...

    Matthias Hoys
  • 10. Re: Apex 4.1 Online Help
    Arie Geller Guru
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    Hello,

    >> We have a pretty slow internet connection at work...

    The search functionality on the Welcome page of the local APEX documentation library is Internet depended. I recently learned from the Documentation team about a great option of local searching that is extremely fast and based on Acrobat search.

    Under the directory where you extracted the documentation zip file, go to the doc directory and double click on index.pdx. This should open your Acrobat reader. Press Ctrl+Shift+F and use the search option of In the index named index.pdx. This will completely free you from your slow internet connection.

    Regards,
    Arie.

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