ok this is a realy large topic on so meny levels but im gona try to piont out wat im looking for. im trying to get any info i can about using ODBC with NS, the good and the bad. basicly im trying to push my company torwads buying it for these resons, (improved speed to the database, less limits to backups and imformation that can be backed up, mass uploads and downloads from excel could be easyer with excel connected to the ODBC driver, custom programs could be produced to automate passed prosseses that were repitisus and time consuming).