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Install/Upgrade from 9.3.3 to 11.1.2.1

871099
871099 Member Posts: 7
edited Jun 25, 2011 2:54PM in EPM System Infrastructure
Gurus,

We are upgrading from 9.3.3 to 11.1.2.1(Distributed environment) and have gone through the 11.1.2.1 start here , installation and configuration guides.

Existing environment:

Machine1(Windows 2003 R2): Hyperion Shared Services, EAS webapp,Essbase Provider Services(WebApp)
Machine2(Windows 2003 R2): Workspace, BI+ Services, BI+ UIServices, BI+ Client, Web Analysis, Financial Reporting, Interactive Reporting
Machine3(Windows 2003 R2): Planning Application/Web Server,EPMA web
Machine4(Windows 2003 R2): HFM Web/App , FDQM Web/App
Machine5(Linux 32bit) : Essbase Server
Machine6(Linux 64bit) : Oracle RDBMS

On Upgraded env plan to move to Windows 2008 and have:

Machine1(Windows 2008 x64): Foundation Services (Hyperion Shared Services,Workspace web,EAS webapp, EPS webapp)
Machine2(Windows 2008 x64): Web Analysis,Reporting&Analysis Framework,Financial Reporting,Interactive Reporting,
Machine3(Windows 2008 x64): Financial Management App/Web, FDQM Web/App
Machine4(Windows 2008 x64): Planning Application/Web Server,EPMA
Machine5(Linux 64bit) : Essbase Server
Machine6(Linux 64bit) : Oracle RDBMS

From Page 94 "Oracle® Hyperion Enterprise Performance Management System Installation and Configuration Guide RELEASE 11.1.2.1 Updated: June 2011" states:

a)
On the machine on which you plan to administer the WebLogic Server, you must install all
Web applications for all applications you plan to deploy on any machine in the environment.
(The WebLogic Administration Server is installed and deployed on the Foundation Services
machine.)

b)
On each remote machine in a distributed environment, install the Web applications you
plan to run on that machine and then use EPM System Configurator to deploy the Web
applications automatically, or manually deploy the Web applications.
Note that EPM System Installer installs WebLogic Server on each machine (for Web tier and
Service tier components) in a distributed environment.

c)
If you are deploying Web applications on a machine other than the WebLogic
Administration Server machine, WebLogic Administration Server must be running

Question:
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1) After installing components on respective machines per guideline a),b) above do we have to deploy webapps from products related to machine2,3,4 on machine1(foundation services). If everything gets deployed on Shared service machine -- we are concerned about the system resources that will be needed to run all the webapps.
2) Assuming we do not want to use a cluster - do we still have to depoy to admin server? Please clarify.

Best Regards

Answers

  • D_EPM
    D_EPM Member Posts: 81
    Hi,

    1) After installing components on respective machines per guideline a),b) above do we have to deploy webapps from products related to machine2,3,4 on machine1(foundation services).
    If everything gets deployed on Shared service machine -- we are concerned about the system resources that will be needed to run all the webapps.

    I have noticed a small issue in your chart below, there is no component called workspace any more in 11.1.2.1.
    It is embedded within RAFramework and called as RAweb.
    So, you could have something like

    Machine1(Windows 2008 x64): Foundation Services (Hyperion Shared Services, Reporting&Analysis Framework,Financial Reporting)
    Machine2(Windows 2008 x64): Web Analysis, Interactive Reporting, EAS webapp, APS webapp
    Machine3(Windows 2008 x64): Financial Management App/Web, FDQM Web/App
    Machine4(Windows 2008 x64): Planning Application/Web Server,EPMA
    Machine5(Linux 64bit) : Essbase Server
    Machine6(Linux 64bit) : Oracle RDBMS


    You would deploy all your web apps onto server 1 and from resources point this server has to be a bit more efficient than others.
    We are running on a very similar environment with good amount of user pool and dont see issues

    2) Assuming we do not want to use a cluster - do we still have to depoy to admin server? Please clarify.

    Let em know if you need any more details
  • 871099
    871099 Member Posts: 7
    Hi Dinesh,

    Thanks for taking time to answer my question.

    I reviewed install start here guide architecture components and was planning for following layout:

    WLS - weblogic server
    MWC - microsoft windows component

    webtier:

    Machine1(Windows 2008) : Oracle HTTP Server

    apptier:

    Machine1(Windows 2008R2): Foundation Services WebApp (WLS)
    Essbase Administration Services WebApp (WLS)
    Essbase Provider Services WebApp (WLS)
    Calculation Manager WebApp (WLS)

    Machine2(Windows 2008 R2): Reporting&Analysis Framework Services (MWC)
    Interactive Reporting Services (MWC)
    Financial Reporting Print Server (MWC)
    Financial Reporting WebApp (WLS)
    Web Analysis WebApp (WLS)
    Reporting&Analysis Framework WebApp (WLS)

    Machine3(Windows 2008 R2): Microsoft IIS 7.0 (MWC)
    Financial Mgmt WebServices WebApp (WLS or IIS??)
    Financial Mgmt WebServices IIS WebApp (MSC)
    Financial Mgmt SmartView IIS WebApp (MWC)
    Financial Mgmt IIS WebApp (MWC)
    Financial Mgmt LifeCycle Mgmt IIS WebApp (MWC)
    DME Listener Service (MWC)
    Financial Mgmt Server (MWC)
    FDM ServerFDM Task Manager (MWC)
    FDM Load BalancerFDM IIS Web Application (MWC)
    Oracle Data Integrator(ODI) Agent (MWC)
    ERP Integrator WebApp (WLS or IIS??)

    Machine4(Windows 2008 R2): Microsoft IIS 7.0 (MWC)
    Planning WebApp (WLS)
    Planning RMI Registry (MWC)
    Perf Mgmt Architect WebApp (WLS)
    Data Synchronization WebApp (WLS)
    Perf Mgmt Architect Server (MWC)
    Perf Mgmt Architect Web Services IIS (MWC)

    1) Do you see any issues with above layout or there are any changes required.

    2) Since this is POC env we are using VMware to host windows machines and my windows admin told me that maximum CPU he can provide on single machine was 8 CPU's. We are also sharing resources on the vmware infrastructure so it wont be really 8 but "shared 8 CPU's) with some other resource on the pool. So we would like to distribute the components into multiple servers so as to not overwhelm one box if there is a heavy load.

    2) Is there any benefit of bundling all WLS components on a single machine versus distributing them?
    (for e.g: everything marked in above as WebApp -- My understanding is you need to deploy them to appropriate application server)

    3) In case there is a need to distribute the WebApps on mutiple hosts do we have to
    install component on : shared services machine - deploy on same machine to Weblogic(admin) server &
    install component on remote machine but do not configure/deploy it?
    If this is the correct approach wondering what is the logic or rationale behind doing it this way.

    We are still planning out the layout and havent installed this yet so wondering what options to use to install versus deploy.
    The installation and configuration guide has steps but hoping it would become more clear when we do this hands on.

    Regards
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