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Why can't we access the exercise files exposed in the Java Complete Programming course?

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  • bm1004
    bm1004 Member Posts: 4 Red Ribbon

    There's bad news for practice 15-2. For the second practice they use a modified project solution which divides the solution into 4 modules. They don't give us the project and it is tedious to manually create. I found this to be the most difficult practice and the quiz was most difficult, too. What are they thinking to sabotage our efforts so flagrantly and needlessly? I was ok with it until this practice.

  • Martien van den Akker
    Martien van den Akker Member Posts: 2,777 Bronze Crown

    Yep got to that one too. I'm still busy trying to make something from it.

  • User_TOQ7T
    User_TOQ7T Member Posts: 0 Green Ribbon

    As recommended I first finished the Java Explorer free course (https://learn.oracle.com/ols/learning-path/java-explorer/40805/79726) before starting this Java SE: Programming Complete 25th anniversary course. I'm running into the same problem, with the practices pdf missing.

    When the pdf with exercises is first mentioned (1: introduction to Java --> Practice 1-1: Verify the JDK Installation) he sais it is available on 'the remote desktop to which you connect'. This remote desktop is not included in the free 25th course.

    However, in the Java Explorer course that I just finished a free 30-day trial cloud account is mentioned. All exercises in that course are also done on a remote desktop. I don't have a creditcard, so I couldn't finish a registration there, but maybe somebody else tried this? See course Java Explorer (link above) --> lesson 'Introduction to Java Basics' --> part 'Provision Env Demo'.

    So my question is: is the remote desktop created made available in the Java Explorer class the same as for the 25th Java SE: Programming Complete course? And can anybody find the the d107120GC10_ag.pdf file on that remote desktop?

  • User_TOQ7T
    User_TOQ7T Member Posts: 0 Green Ribbon

    Rewatching that video of the Java Explorer course again he sais:

    "If you access oracle.com or go to cloud.oracle.com, you'll access this page where you can access a free Oracle trial account. Now, because this is a free Java course, we decided that the students could bring their own trial account with them and use their own account. **Oracle is not providing an account for you for this course.**

    But you can simply go to the trial Oracle Cloud tier, click on that, go in and click on Start for Free, and then fill out the pages necessary to create an account. Put in a territory, an email address, click Next, put in your identifying information. You will need to submit a credit card for authentication purposes."

    So as Oracle isn't the one providing an account and as shown in the video he creates a remote desktop unrelated to the course itself (@3:41 selecting 'Oracle Cloud Developer Image'). However, the video doesn't show the other images available. Maybe the image with the remote desktop of Java SE complete course is under another tab? Hope somebody can check.

  • User_TOQ7T
    User_TOQ7T Member Posts: 0 Green Ribbon

    @Martien van den Akker

    How did you do the practices? Do you have a payed subscription and with that also the pdf, or is your sub also free and did you just do them by watching the videos?

  • Abdeladim ELBAKILI
    Abdeladim ELBAKILI Member Posts: 0 Green Ribbon

    How can we access to labs Exercise and practice it ??

  • Martien van den Akker
    Martien van den Akker Member Posts: 2,777 Bronze Crown

    Hi,

    I paused the practice videos regularly on the places where the trainer shows his copy of the labs. He only copy&pastes code from the student guide to the IDE. So, pause and try to come up with my own code and compare it with the suggestions in the video and the actual code he copies to his editor.

    This works for most of the labs. With the sort of exception of the bulkload lab, because in the actual lab environment you'll get about 65 csv files. I solved that by transforming the product and review examples in the earlier labs into csv files. So I have about 6 products with accompanying reviews.

    The actual lab where I get in more trouble is lab 15.2, as pointed out by bm1004, because there the student guide asumes a copy of the project that is refactored for you. Here in the lab video the trainer shows what the refactorings are. So I planned to try to do those myself. But I haven't been able to come that far.

    So, if you won't have trouble with typing over the code, than you'll be able to do most of the labs.

    Kind regards,

    Martien

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  • Martien van den Akker
    Martien van den Akker Member Posts: 2,777 Bronze Crown

    Nope, you won't get the student guide or the resource files. But you can do the exercises by watching and regularly pausing the lab-videos. See my previous comments.

    Kind regards,

    Martien

  • User_TOQ7T
    User_TOQ7T Member Posts: 0 Green Ribbon

    Hi Martien,

    I see. Currently I'm also doing the course, now at lesson 7/8. I'm following your example, tracking my progress on github (https://github.com/jonadv/java-learning/commits/main) I keep it all in one folder, but make a commit after every lesson. Thanks for uploading your csv's, I'm sure they will come in handy later. I don't think Oracle would have a problem with homework assignments being publicly available btw, if the student chooses to copy-paste it and learn nothing from it, it is his choice.

    I find this course very educational, but as you are saying, he just scrolls through the assignment docs and copy pastes the code. If the goal and possible ways were explained first, forcing you to think about it first (like in the Java Explorer course), it would teach a lot more. I'm also trying to come up with my own solutions and code, but starting from practice 7 the difficulty increases. Are you planning on finishing the course? And also planning to take the 819-J exam before April 25th?

  • User_Q5Z53
    User_Q5Z53 Member Posts: 3 Green Ribbon

    I used your files too and got the same problem. The truth why the instructor's solution shows the stars is simply because in the files that he already have the rating is pre set there (Practice 13-2 Minute 9) , giving the impression that it was calculated when actually the rating value is already written in the csv file.