Transition Feedback Thread

Jim Finch-Oracle

https://community.oracle.com/tech/welcome/discussion/comment/16769844#Comment_16769844

Thanks, Andrew, I will take everything under consideration, however, the problem solves itself with a little reading and one simple action by the newbies.

Newbie Guide <-- check it out. Yes, non-newbies can participate in it as well.

(and it's an easy way to earn our first custom badge!)

Christian Berg-0racle

Obvious downside:

I can't see what I am following across the board anymore. So in order to catch up, I must log on and go to

Hub -> Apps / Infrastructure -> Discussions -> View -> Following

then

Hub -> Developer -> Discussions -> View -> Following

then MOSC. Then Partner.

If the idea was to get mileage on my mouse and wear out the click button, then the goal is achieved. But it also achieves the goal of me not wanting to participate anymore unless absolutely necessary since this painful UX is streamlined to drive people away. It's not functional, it's not usable and in every single respect a humongous step backwards into the dark ages.

AndrewSayer

Separate feedback, the mobile site doesn't include the Globe button on the top menu for switching between Spaces. This means navigating on an iPad is very difficult without searching for specific places. The notification bar is also missing.

Jim Finch-Oracle

https://community.oracle.com/tech/welcome/discussion/comment/16769861#Comment_16769861

Thanks Andrew, I'll pass it to the devs. I know they're still working on mobile.

User_WLPNV

That's the problem there is no 'Ask a question' - who tested this application before putting it live?

GregV

Yes I understand better now, it's worse than I thought. Not only there are separate portals, but also separate spaces, each with their "following" logic. So even for the "free" communities you have to select your product:

And each of them has the following contents. Ok I can understand the MOSC/non-MOSC separation, but this is a real pain. It means you need at least 3 browser tabs to monitor the communities you follow, plus one tab for MOSC, and more tabs for other hubs I guess!

mathguy

From my understanding, we need to be in compliance with the Oracle style guide.

@Jim Finch-Oracle

I am sorry, I don't understand. What "Oracle style guide"? Is this something new?

I don't see a watermark, for example, here:

https://docs.oracle.com/en/database/oracle/oracle-database/19/sqlrf/SELECT.html#GUID-CFA006CA-6FF1-4972-821E-6996142A51C6

Is that a violation of the Oracle style guide?

Jim Finch-Oracle

https://community.oracle.com/tech/welcome/discussion/comment/16769866#Comment_16769866

Hi Oracle User,

As per the newbie guide, you won't see that button. You're able to reply and take part, just not start new discussions.

https://community.oracle.com/tech/apps-infra/kb/articles/6-newbie-level-limitations

Please take a look at the guide, which includes exactly what you need to do to get past Newbie level.

Jim Finch-Oracle

https://community.oracle.com/tech/welcome/discussion/comment/16769871#Comment_16769871

We do have internal style guides, which we must be in compliance with.

User_WLPNV

That's ridiculous; I had an issue, I wanted to raise a query. I don't need a settling-in period.

I raised discussions before in the older system and had no issues in doing that.

Surely everything gets reviewed before being visible on the board to see that it is appropriate.

I also agree with another comment - the squiggles in the background are very annoying and make it harder to read the text.

It should be a plain background! Again, I come back to my earlier point, who tested this site and who approved the layout?

Thanks