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What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 desktops

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I have been monitoring the developments in the KDE arena and the results are very interesting. KDE 4.0 (or even the latest Gnome) desktops are way more usable and convenient than the current gnome desktop that comes with the stock Solaris 10 distribution.

I wish that the mainstream Solaris 10 Desktop would at least incorporate the latest Gnome and if possible a recent KDE desktops. I understand that KDE relies on QT which is a licensed product. It would be interesting if some sort of Academic licensing would be available for solaris 10 desktop users in academic institutions.

thanks
Michael
  • 1. Re: What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 deskto
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    Other considerations apart, the current rules for Solaris update releases mean this is highly unlikely to happen in any S10 update.

    However, the latest stable version of GNOME (2.20) is available in Solaris Express Developer Edition, which you can download from http://developers.sun.com/sxde/, and also in the Project Indiana Live CD, which you can download from http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/.

    There is also an OpenSolaris KDE community at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/communities/kde/, who are in the process of providing up-to-date versions of KDE for OpenSolaris. For Solaris 10, you can also find KDE 3.x packages at http://blastwave.org. Both of these are currently unsupported by Sun, of course.
  • 2. Re: What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 deskto
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    Is there any hope that the latest Gnome will find its way eventually to mainstream Solaris10? I understand that SolExpress is a less stable Solaris 10, right? What is project Indiana? The latest Opensolaris ?

    thanks for your reply
    Michael
  • 3. Re: What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 deskto
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    I'd expect that major GUI changes would not happen until Solaris 11. However, I'd expect incremental updates with the latest Solaris 10 releases (of which one should be coming up in a few months?).
  • 4. Re: What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 deskto
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    Project Indiana (currently at the "preview release" stage) is a binary distribution of OpenSolaris, distributed as a Live CD with an online package repository. It may become the reference distribution for OpenSolaris, although that has yet to be decided AFAIK.

    As for updating GNOME in Solaris 10: it's not impossible, but I'd say it was unlikely as it's not simply a "drop-in" change; there are dependencies on other libraries etc. that would also need upgrading. That big a change has the potential to introduce the sort of instability that most customers wouldn't thank us for on their production desktops and servers.

    If you're happy to go unsupported, the easiest way to get a newer version of GNOME or KDE on Solaris 10 is the packages from http://blastwave.org.
  • 5. Re: What are the plans for KDE4 becoming one of the mainstream Sol10 deskto
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    Currently, the three Ultra 45 workstations I have for use are now converted to light servers. It seems that I cannot tighten the GNOME desktop security issues to get them to pass security requirements for workstations. I cannot get the browser (Firefox) and email (Thunderbird) to a version level that will pass IAVA alerts. When I remove them as packages and add from "Blastwave" or "Sunfreeware" the dependencies (GTK+, libs) cannot be updated to support the versions.

    I real from Allen Pae (Check Spelling) that Sun really does not care about desktops since all of us “Admins” come in for CLI work anyway. That is true, but then we have to go back to a Windows desktop to do any of the ancillary reports. So we have to “PuTTY” in with “Hummingbird” (for GUI) instead of doing “admin” work from a Solaris 10 workstation. (I do think there could be advantages in doing this.)

    I would like a desktop that can be secured and meet IAVA requirements.
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    I would like a desktop that can be secured and meet IAVA requirements.
    I'm not familiar with IAVA requirements, but FWIW, Sun's approach to a 'secure desktop' on Solaris is via the Solaris Trusted Extensions, which are Common Criteria certified to EAL 4+. (Certification applies to Solaris 10 version; OpenSolaris version not yet certified AFAIK).

    http://www.sun.com/software/security/securitycert