# uln_register # yum grouplist ... Desktop Platform Development ... # yum groupinstall 'Desktop Platform Development'
Dude wrote:Argument is not relevant - a server is neither an end-user platform or a consumer device.
Why saving computer resources for the sake of usability when hardware is getting cheaper and more powerful every year. I think if Enterprise Linux continues this trend, human resources and administration specialists will become more essential, and training and service more expensive. Imagine a text based smartphone - I'm sure some people will love it, and some business will make some bucks on service calls, but over time people will just loose interest, and there is also competition around.
Argument is not relevant - a server is neither an end-user platform or a consumer device.At some point in history a computer was not even considered a consumer device. Sorry I don't understand why a graphical interface, which intends to make complex configurations easier to manage and more foolproof, should not be applied to "expert devices".
Dude wrote:It does not make it easier. That is a fallacy - the type of argument one gets from a Windows admin that only knows a GUI and nothing else. There are numerous times when dealing with the command line is not only far more powerful, but also far more easier. There are so many different types of configurations, many not to be found in any GUI. There are configurations that are too complex for a GUI. Etc.
At some point in history a computer was not even considered a consumer device. Sorry I don't understand why a graphical interface, which intends to make complex configurations easier to manage and more foolproof, should not be applied to "expert devices".
As for the desktop interface, I have no problem if someone decides that their servers run best without it, and that a text interface and a bare metal engine is the way a computer should run. It depends on your environment and desires, and it is easy enough for someone with such requirement and technical background to customize a Linux system accordingly. But I'm not a fan of social engineering and don't think it should be disabled by default because it will give newcomers a harder time than required.So instead give newcomers a crutch called a GUI and hobble them for the rest of their lives, expecting a GUI to be the extend of what sys admin and configuration are on Linux?
Would Windows be a better operating system if it was command line only?Absolutely! I was excited when WinNT came out because internally it looked very much like VMS (no surprise there). Then they saddled it with that sow's ear of the Windows GUI. All that lovely functionality and elegance hidden behind that granny-fied interface model.
Dude wrote:Yes. And that is why I wrote a proper command line shell interface (exposing some of the Win16/32 API) for WFW 3.11 and then the first version of Windows-NT.
Would Windows be a better operating system if it was command line only?