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Forms 6i, Windows 7, Jinitiator 1.3.1.17

450349Dec 12 2011 — edited Jan 27 2012
Hi

We just applied the latest patch for 6i on our application deployed on the web. This installed jinitiator 1.3.1.17. When users on windows 7 launches the application, it is making changes to the desktop automatic and causing some font issues.
Please let me know how we can fix this.

Regards.

Comments

HamidHelal
As per my experience, when you try to run any application which is not fully supported for Windows 7, OS change his version to basic and u see some font or color changes. Check your jinitiator version does support Internet Explorer or other Web Browser ?

Finally, Can you post, what you exactly f aching or what the exam problem ?

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450349
Hi
Once the application is launched, it switches the windows 7 professional to windows 7 basic, changes the font ... etc.

thanks.
InoL
This is definitely not a supported combination. On Windows 7 you need IE8 (or Firefox), which doesn't support Jinitiator. Switch to Sun JRE 1.6.0_16 or higher.
Check the certification here:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/ias/downloads/as-certification-r2-101202-095871.html#BABGCBHA
HamidHelal
Does the Jinitiator work properly ?
If no , what is the browser and version ?

And check the compatibility from visiting link provided by InoL

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450349
Hi
Can we deploy forms on the web using Sun jre. If so is there a documentaiton for this anywhere. Please let me know.
thanks.
CraigB
Take a look at Oracle 10gR2 Forms Services – Using Sun's Java Plug-in. Granted, this document is for Forms 10g, but Forms 6i also uses the same files (formsweb.cfg and default.env) when deployed to the web so the document will show you what needs to be changed.

Craig...
450349
can we deploy forms 6i on the web uisng JRE. Jinitiator is creating lots of problems on windows7.

Please help.

regards.
HamidHelal
can we deploy forms 6i on the web uisng JRE. Jinitiator is creating lots of problems on windows7.
Provably you can. Follow the CraigB's link and try..

hope this will help you...
CraigB
Yes, it is possible. If I recall correctly, Forms 6i is certified with the Sun JRE 1.4. However, JRE 1.4 is probably not compatible with Windows 7. Take a look at the document I suggested. It will show you how to change your configuration to use the Sun JRE.

Craig...
450349
No luck yet. How about 9i Rel2 application server and develper 9irel 2.

thanks.
InoL
If you upgrade Developer 6i, upgrade it to 11g and not to 9i. That would be pretty useless, since that is not a supported version either.

And what is "No luck yet"? You mean to say that it doesn't work with JRE 1.6.0_16 or higher (instead of JInitiator or JRE 1.4)? Any problems there?
user346369
+> This installed jinitiator 1.3.1.17. When users on windows 7 launches the application, it is making changes to the desktop automatic and causing some font issues.+

What ARE the font issues? Is EVERYTHING larger, or just a field or two, or what?

It may not be the switch to Windows 7 basic. I've never seen that cause any trouble.

Regarding the upgrade, since you are already using Web Forms, upgrading should be easier. But Forms 11 requires a different application server than Forms 10.
450349
Hi
We dont have licence for 11G. We have only for 9i.
The JRE is not launching the application at all.

thanks.
450349
The fonts are very light on the applet when launched on windows7 and the windows 7 platform switches to Windows 7 basic from Professional.
InoL
The JRE is not launching the application at all.
The fonts are very light on the applet when launched
That looks like a contradiction.
Light fonts indicate a JRE problem indeed. What is the exact combination you are testing now? Did you try 1.6.0_16?
the windows 7 platform switches to Windows 7 basic from Professional
That sounds like ouch! I have no idea how the Forms applet can be responsible for that.

I very much doubt that switching to 9i will solve much. This is also an unsupported version now.
450349
You are taking two different answers.

1. I was not able to launch the applicaiton using JRE in our test environment.
2. The production environment is with Jinitiator 1.3.1.17 that has light fonts, causing the Operating system to switch from windows7 Pro to windows7 basic.

The reason for trying 9iRel2 is to test out 9i Forms and Reports with JRE.

Please guide.

thanks.
InoL
1. I was not able to launch the applicaiton using JRE in our test environment.
Any errors? Did you take make the proper changes on the test server too? Just installing JRE on the client won't work.
Please guide.
Stick to a certified combination. That is really the only sound advice (and the same answer you are going to get from Oracle Support).
CraigB
causing the Operating system to switch from windows7 Pro to windows7 basic.
I'm really intrigued and confused by this statement! Can you explain what this means? How can you tell if you are in Pro versus Basic?

Craig...
user346369
+> causing the Operating system to switch from windows7 Pro to windows7 basic.+

I have seen that switch occasionally on both Windows Vista and Windows 7. You start some application -- I think it is usually something running out of a java setup, and Windows pops up a message about switching from its default to Windows Basic.

It has never bothered me -- I just go ahead and run the application with no apparent trouble. The only thing I can really notice (and I may be wrong even here) is that the fancy windows shadows around the window change so they don't appear partially transparent. I sure wouldn't worry about that issue.

Googling the issue, found this: Windows 7 automatically switching to basic (non-aero) theme

By the way, the latest version of Jinitiator is 1.3.1.30. Have you tried running with that?

Edited by: Steve Cosner on Dec 21, 2011 9:43 AM (Added MS link)
CraigB
Steve, thanks for the clarification. So it really is just an issue where you loose the Theme for the application. That makes sense.

@699704, Sorry to side-track your thread from the main issue.

Craig...
450349
Hi Steve,

Just installed and implemented the Jinitiator version 1.3.1.30.
The applicaiton takes longer time to load the screens on 1.3.1.30 & 1.3.1.17 when compared to 1.1.8.19 whcih was 1/5th the time compared to the latest versions.
Any ideas.

thanks.
CraigB
The main issue here is that Oracle's Jinitiator is NOT compatible with Windows 7 and IE 8 or higher. The correct fix is to install the Oracle/Sun JRE 1.6.0_18 or higher and stop using the Jinitiator. Until you upgrade to JRE 1.6.0 you are going to continue to have problems.

Craig...
450349
Hi Craig,
I tried the steps on the doc. It does not invoke the JVM when tried to access the application.
Any ideas.

thanks.
HamidHelal
I tried the steps on the doc. It does not invoke the JVM when tried to access the application.
If the formsweb.cfg file didn't configure correctly then JVM wouldn't lunch.
can u please post the content of u'r formsweb.cfg ?
450349
Hi Hamid
The formsweb.cfg is fixed. The applicaiton is trying ot launch the JRE and the follwing error comes up.

Thanks,


Java Plug-in 1.6.0_30
Using JRE version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
----------------------------------------------------
c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system and deployment properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------


java.lang.SecurityException: trusted loader attempted to load sandboxed resource from http://myserver/forms60java/
at com.sun.deploy.security.CPCallbackHandler$ParentCallback.check(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.deploy.security.CPCallbackHandler$ParentCallback.access$1500(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.deploy.security.CPCallbackHandler$ChildElement.checkResource(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.checkResource(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass0(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Unknown Source)
at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Exception: java.lang.SecurityException: trusted loader attempted to load sandboxed resource from http://myserver/forms60java/

Also i was able to launch the application on JVM on the local server. But errors out when tried from other machines.

thanks.

Edited by: 699704 on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 AM
HamidHelal
Java Plug-in 1.6.0_30
Using JRE version 1.6.0_30-b12 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VMd
You are using the almost latest version of JRE and a security issue blocked the lauch. Did you checked which is compatible with u'r Forms and browser ?
take a look on the link http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/ias/downloads/as-certification-r2-101202-095871.html#BABGCBHA
and try to use Sun JRE 1.6.0_16

Hope this will help you.
450349
Hi Hamid,

Our forms version is 6.0.8.27. What is the jre version we should use.
The matrix is for 10G.

thanks.
450349
Hi

I am able to run the application in the local office of the server on JRE,Forms6i Rel 6.0.8.27.0
We are also testing Forms 10G Rel2 Version 10.1.2.0.2 on JRE.

On Both versions, we have the issue of scrolling not working properly.
On a multi row block, we are only able to mouse click only on the first row. Scrolling is also not working properly.

Is there any work around for this. We dont have support so cannot apply oracle patches.

thanks.
HamidHelal
I am able to run the application in the local office of the server on JRE,Forms6i Rel 6.0.8.27.0
If u post how u able to run the application in the local office, it would be help full for others. :)
we have the issue of scrolling not working properly.
On a multi row block, we are only able to mouse click only on the first row. Scrolling is also not working properly.
take a look on this thread 2330805

I also faced like your problem. And overcome by upgrading the forms or Application Server to version 10.1.2.3.
You need patchset no 5983622 (Mandatory) and 9593176 (Optional). There is no other way.

You will get it from http://support.oracle.com

Hope this will help you.

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450349
Hi hamid,

All we need to do is create a basejpi file using the basejinit file.
in the basejpi file change all the parameters that has jinit to jpi and save.
in the formsweb.cfg file make the changes as given in the deploying 10G on JRE link in this thread above.
We should also install the latest java from www.java.com

I have one issue. This deployment of JRE using Forms6i and 9i Application Server works only on Windows 2000. It does not work on Windows XP or Windows7.

Any ideas.

thanks.

Edited by: 699704 on Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM
HamidHelal
699704 wrote:
All we need to do is create a basejpi file using the basejinit file.
in the basejpi file change all the parameters that has jinit to jpi and save.
in the formsweb.cfg file make the changes as given in the deploying 10G on JRE link in this thread above.
No, you didn't create basejpi file. Need to change at formsweb.cfg file,default.env file and if need webutil file.
We should also install the latest java from www.java.com
Then latest version of JRE isn't certified. It is 1.7.xxx . you should use any of 1.6.xxx. check the link for previous version http://filehippo.com/download_jre_32/
I have one issue. This deployment of JRE using Forms6i and 9i Application Server works only on Windows 2000. It does not work on Windows XP or Windows7.
I didn't test it at windows 7. hopefully works on 7. XP will works. can use windows server 2003.

Hope this will help you...
450349
Hi Hamid,

We are using the JRE Version 1.6.xx.
Where can i find the classID for all JRE versions.

thanks.
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