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    oracle coud

    864103
      Hi all ,

      can you please provide me the full configuration details on oracle coud ,

      just correct me

      oracle give us storage that can i install my database on it ?
      this feature help me to avoid any bandwith or network ?
      all user can access this storage ?

      please help me ?
        • 1. Re: oracle coud
          sb92075
          861100 wrote:
          Hi all ,

          can you please provide me the full configuration details on oracle coud ,
          It is a figment of your imagination.
          the cloud does NOT exist.
          can you prove me wrong?
          • 2. Re: oracle coud
            864103
            please provide me the correct ?
            • 3. Re: oracle coud
              sb92075
              861100 wrote:
              please provide me the correct ?
              your imagination exceeds reality.

              You are *NOT correct.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
              • 4. Re: oracle coud
                864103
                so what i do if i need to learn about this feature ?
                • 5. Re: oracle coud
                  sb92075
                  861100 wrote:
                  so what i do if i need to learn about this feature ?
                  post URL concerning this feature.
                  • 6. Re: oracle coud
                    sybrand_b
                    go to http://www.oracle.com and look around a little bit and find https://cloud.oracle.com/mycloud/f?p=service:datasheets:0#database

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                    Sybrand Bakker
                    Senior Oracle DBA
                    • 7. Re: oracle coud
                      Osama_Mustafa
                      861100 wrote:
                      so what i do if i need to learn about this feature ?
                      http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/cloud/overview/index.html
                      • 8. Re: oracle coud
                        Justin_Mungal
                        sb92075 wrote:
                        861100 wrote:
                        Hi all ,

                        can you please provide me the full configuration details on oracle coud ,
                        It is a figment of your imagination.
                        the cloud does NOT exist.
                        can you prove me wrong?
                        What are you on about now, SB?

                        https://cloud.oracle.com/mycloud/f?p=service:database:0

                        Is it fake?
                        • 9. Re: oracle coud
                          Paulie
                          Hi Justin,


                          >

                          https://cloud.oracle.com/mycloud/f?p=service:database:0
                          To those who've posted URLs to the Oracle cloud services, I would just like to
                          know what is the difference between this service and (browser based) LAN/WAN
                          access to a db in a different building and/or nearby/distant datacentre and/or
                          even using a CRT cabled to a mainframe in the basement?


                          It strikes me that this is just another big IT company's efforts to make itself
                          buzzword compliant, rather than there being any real* paradigm shift

                          Apologies for own use of buzzwords :).



                          Paul...
                          • 10. Re: oracle coud
                            Justin_Mungal
                            Paulie wrote:
                            Hi Justin,


                            >

                            https://cloud.oracle.com/mycloud/f?p=service:database:0
                            To those who've posted URLs to the Oracle cloud services, I would just like to
                            know what is the difference between this service and (browser based) LAN/WAN
                            access to a db in a different building and/or nearby/distant datacentre and/or
                            even using a CRT cabled to a mainframe in the basement?


                            It strikes me that this is just another big IT company's efforts to make itself
                            buzzword compliant, rather than there being any real* paradigm shift

                            Apologies for own use of buzzwords :).



                            Paul...
                            I think that's a good question. Private clouds are not a paradigm shift. The paradigm shift occurs when you're using a public cloud. A public cloud is a multi-tenant infrastructure, that is realized through a convergence of technologies (datacenters and all of the typical equipment in them, virtualization, and a cloud stack that ties everything together). The major difference between using a public cloud and a private cloud service is that in a public cloud model you only pay for a tiny slice of that infrastructure (the slice you're using). The benefit is reduced cap-ex (you don't pay for equipment), overhead (you don't manage the infrastructure), and flexibility (the public infrastructure is huge, and you can scale your requirements dynamically). The infrastructure is paid for by virtue of its multi-tenancy, and is run by an entity who's profit comes from the infrastructure itself (in other words, they specialize in running the cloud infrastructure, and must do a good job at it to stay in business).

                            It's similar to the paradigm shift that corporations went through when they went from generating power with their own equipment, to moving to the grid. They received a monthly bill at the end of the month, and it was much less of a headache for them. Let people focus on what makes them money, and let specialists handle the grid (or in this case, the public cloud).

                            In other words, it's a real paradigm shift that corporations are deriving value from, not just marketing buzzwords. Of course, there are certain things we prefer not to host in the cloud, but as time moves forward and the technology matures that list will grow shorter and shorter.
                            • 11. Re: oracle coud
                              sybrand_b
                              Of course, there are certain things we prefer not to host in the cloud, but as time moves forward and the technology matures that list will grow shorter and shorter.
                              I'm quite confident Ddos attacks will never stop, and if we want to make our economy very vulnerable to lone evildoers or -worse- fundamentalist zelots, this is the right way to go.
                              If we don't want that, we probably will soon regret, we ever set up a cloud.

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                              Sybrand Bakker
                              Senior Oracle DBA
                              • 12. Re: oracle coud
                                Justin_Mungal
                                sybrand_b wrote:
                                Of course, there are certain things we prefer not to host in the cloud, but as time moves forward and the technology matures that list will grow shorter and shorter.
                                I'm quite confident Ddos attacks will never stop, and if we want to make our economy very vulnerable to lone evildoers or -worse- fundamentalist zelots, this is the right way to go.
                                If we don't want that, we probably will soon regret, we ever set up a cloud.

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                                Sybrand Bakker
                                Senior Oracle DBA
                                I disagree. A public cloud can be built off an entire datacenter or multiple datacenters. Why would DDOS attacks render a public cloud more vulnerable than a standard infrastructure?

                                Regarding the cloud stack itself, yes I'm sure there will be vulnerabilities with it... but all software has vulnerabilities and they will get fixed. To say you don't want to use it because of terrorists would be no different than saying we shouldn't have created an Internet because terrorists might use it to get us. Well, despite the drawbacks of the Internet it has benefited society as a whole immensely. We can't be afraid of new things because of "evildoers."

                                Edited by: Justin Mungal on Apr 28, 2013 10:30 AM
                                • 13. Re: oracle coud
                                  Paulie
                                  Hi again,

                                  >


                                  I think that's a good question. Private clouds are not a paradigm shift. The
                                  paradigm shift occurs when you're using a public cloud.
                                  Hmmmm.....

                                  A public cloud is a multi-tenant infrastructure, that is realized
                                  through a convergence of technologies (datacenters and all
                                  of the typical equipment in them, virtualization, and a cloud stack
                                  that ties everything together).
                                  How is this different from a datacentre which services many clients -
                                  even clients who are rivals to each other. I'm fairly sure that datacentres
                                  offer virtualisation.

                                  The major difference between using a public cloud and a private
                                  cloud service is that in a public cloud model you only pay for a tiny
                                  slice of that infrastructure (the slice you're using).
                                  That wouldn't be similar to a datacentre which has mulitple clients,
                                  none of whom pay for the whole show?

                                  The benefit is reduced cap-ex (you don't pay for equipment),
                                  overhead
                                  And this is different from a datacentre how?

                                  (you don't manage the infrastructure),
                                  And this is different from a datacentre how?


                                  and flexibility (the public infrastructure is huge, and you can scale your
                                  requirements dynamically).
                                  And this is different from a datacentre how?


                                  The infrastructure is paid for by virtue of its multi-tenancy, and is run
                                  by an entity who's profit comes from the infrastructure itself (in other
                                  words, they specialize in running the cloud infrastructure, and must do
                                  a good job at it to stay in business).
                                  Sorry, but I'm just not buying the Koolaid. There is nothing earth-shattering
                                  here - you pay your telecoms from your building to the datacentre and then
                                  you pay for the datacentre to host your app. Under the cloud approach, you
                                  pay your telecoms company from your building to the cloud which hosts your
                                  app.

                                  It's similar to the paradigm shift that corporations went through when they
                                  went from generating power with their own equipment, to moving to the grid.
                                  Specialistion has been occurring since man first settled in villages 10 odd thousand
                                  years ago - nothing new here.


                                  They received a monthly bill at the end of the month, and it was much less
                                  of a headache for them.
                                  And instead of having your telecoms bill and your datacentre bill, you'll have
                                  your telecoms bill and your cloud provider's bill - paradigm shift???


                                  Let people focus on what makes them money,
                                  Just like they do now so?

                                  and let specialists handle the grid (or in this case, the public cloud).
                                  and let the datacentre specialists handle your data instead of the cloud?

                                  I can see the (somewhat) more flexible provisioning argument - but datacentres
                                  can also reprovision - if somewhat less flexibly.

                                  In other words, it's a real paradigm shift that corporations are deriving
                                  value from, not just marketing buzzwords. Of course, there are certain
                                  things we prefer not to host in the cloud, but as time moves forward
                                  and the technology matures that list will grow shorter and shorter.
                                  Typical data that's kept in-house is medical, banking and social security.

                                  Where do you think Oracle ultimately keeps the data that its clients
                                  put on the Oracle cloud? In a datacentre perhaps?

                                  The point is that ultimately data must* reside on a disk (or some sort
                                  of physical storage).


                                  The so-called cloud is not a Tesla-like nebulous entity (Tesla AIUI, wanted
                                  to draw electricty from the ionosphere - or is that where cloud data
                                  resides? That would* be a paradigm shift :) )


                                  It ultimately boils down to bits on disk. What you see as an earthquake, I
                                  see more as continental drift as various (old) ideas are gradually put
                                  together in ways that could increase productivity for a certain subset
                                  of clients/users, but radical it is* not.

                                  With all due respect,


                                  Paul...
                                  • 14. Re: oracle coud
                                    864103
                                    actually i need to know how can i install this feature , how to configure it , i read some articals about this oracle provide us one schema and 1 GB and 50 as a triffic
                                    ?if there is any link of license and how to configure it ?
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