6 Replies Latest reply: Feb 6, 2014 2:40 AM by Haafiz RSS

Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager

alammo1 Newbie
Currently Being Moderated

Hi,

 

We have an R12.1.3 ERP system with 11.2.0.1 database on solaris 10(sparc 64).

 

In one of out instances, we are noticing that any concurrent request run by the standard manager is erroring out in "Inactive, no manager"

 

However, when same request is assigned to be run by an another custom manager, its running fine.

 

The standard manager seems to be up as it shows same values in Actual and Target columns on Concurrent Manager Administer screen.

 

I have also bounced the standard manager but still no luck.

 

Please help.

 

Thanks.

  • 1. Re: Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager
    Asif Muhammad Guru
    Currently Being Moderated

    Hi,

     

    Can you please confirm of any changes made recently which might have cause this issue?  Can you also confirm that you are not running this report out of the working shift time allocated to the standard Manager.

     

    Please provide up the Standard Manager process log file.

     

    Also try shutting down the CM, run cmclean.sql script and startup the CM.

     

    Thanks &

    Best Regards,

    Asif

  • 2. Re: Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager
    alammo1 Newbie
    Currently Being Moderated

    Dear Asif

     

    Thanks for the prompt reply.

     

    There has been no configuration changes on the instance recently.

     

    The Standard Manager is running in its normal workshift which is active 24*7

     

    log file:

     

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    Starting ASCP Concurrent Manager               : 06-FEB-2014 07:00:11
    Starting ASCP Concurrent Manager               : 06-FEB-2014 07:00:11
    Starting ASCP Concurrent Manager               : 06-FEB-2014 07:00:11
    Starting ASCP Concurrent Manager               : 06-FEB-2014 07:00:11

     

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    Request  : 199579062

    Priority : 0

    Program  : 0/1

    State: Q

     

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    Request  : 199579063

    Priority : 0

    Program  : 0/0

    State: Q

     

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    Request  : 199579068

    Priority : 0

    Program  : 0/3

    State: Q

     

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    Request  : 199579071

    Priority : 0

    Program  : 0/3

    State: Q

     

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    06-FEB-2014 09:51:23

    Request  : 199579055

    Priority : 50

    Program  : 0/36888

    State: T

     

    06-FEB-2014 09:51:23

    Attempting process termination for process 15376 on node RIYSVERP-003

     

                   Process monitor session started : 06-FEB-2014 09:51:25

     

    Found running request 199579055 attached to dead manager process.

    Setting request status to completed.

     

     

    Found dead process: spid=(15376), cpid=(334483), ORA pid=(88), manager=(0/1222)

     

     

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    #######################################################

     

    We will try bouncing CM and run cmclean after confirmation from the users

     

    Thanks &

    Best Regards,

    Asif

  • 3. Re: Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager
    Asif Muhammad Guru
    Currently Being Moderated

    Hi,

     

    Please let us know the status of the CM after cmclean run, and provide the output of the following script:

     

    select decode(CONCURRENT_QUEUE_NAME,'FNDICM','Internal Manager','FNDCRM','Conflict Resolution Manager','AMSDMIN','Marketing Data Mining Manager','C_AQCT_SVC','C AQCART Service','FFTM','FastFormula Transaction Manager','FNDCPOPP','Output Post Processor','FNDSCH','Scheduler/Prereleaser Manager','FNDSM_AQHERP','Service Manager: AQHERP','FTE_TXN_MANAGER','Transportation Manager','IEU_SH_CS','Session History Cleanup','IEU_WL_CS','UWQ Worklist Items Release for Crashed session','INVMGR','Inventory Manager','INVTMRPM','INV Remote Procedure Manager','OAMCOLMGR','OAM Metrics Collection Manager','PASMGR','PA Streamline Manager','PODAMGR','PO Document Approval Manager','RCVOLTM','Receiving Transaction Manager','STANDARD','Standard Manager','WFALSNRSVC','Workflow Agent Listener Service','WFMLRSVC','Workflow Mailer Service','WFWSSVC','Workflow Document Web Services Service','WMSTAMGR','WMS Task Archiving Manager','XDP_APPL_SVC','SFM Application Monitoring Service','XDP_CTRL_SVC','SFM Controller Service','XDP_Q_EVENT_SVC','SFM Event Manager Queue Service','XDP_Q_FA_SVC','SFM Fulfillment Actions Queue Service','XDP_Q_FE_READY_SVC','SFM Fulfillment Element Ready Queue Service','XDP_Q_IN_MSG_SVC','SFM Inbound Messages Queue Service','XDP_Q_ORDER_SVC','SFM Order Queue Service','XDP_Q_TIMER_SVC','SFM Timer Queue Service','XDP_Q_WI_SVC','SFM Work Item Queue Service','XDP_SMIT_SVC','SFM SM Interface Test Service') as "Concurrent Manager's Name", max_processes as "TARGET Processes", running_processes as "ACTUAL Processes"

    from apps.fnd_concurrent_queues

    where CONCURRENT_QUEUE_NAME in ('FNDICM','FNDCRM','AMSDMIN','C_AQCT_SVC','FFTM','FNDCPOPP','FNDSCH','FNDSM_AQHERP','FTE_TXN_MANAGER','IEU_SH_CS','IEU_WL_CS','INVMGR','INVTMRPM','OAMCOLMGR','PASMGR','PODAMGR','RCVOLTM','STANDARD','WFALSNRSVC','WFMLRSVC','WFWSSVC','WMSTAMGR','XDP_APPL_SVC','XDP_CTRL_SVC','XDP_Q_EVENT_SVC','XDP_Q_FA_SVC','XDP_Q_FE_READY_SVC','XDP_Q_IN_MSG_SVC','XDP_Q_ORDER_SVC','XDP_Q_TIMER_SVC','XDP_Q_WI_SVC','XDP_SMIT_SVC');

     

    Thanks &

    Best Regards,

    Asif

  • 4. Re: Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager
    George Manasseh Guru
    Currently Being Moderated

    Hi,

    Welcome to communities.

    Please make sure from this path Sysadmin > Concurrent > Manager > Administer that the concurrent manager is working properly by checking the values in both columns Actual & Target it must be equal to 1 if it equals to ZERO let your DBA restart the concurrent manager by these two orders.

    1 - adcmctl.sh stop

    2- adcmctl.sh start

    Thanks

    George

  • 5. Re: Any request run by Standard Manager errors out in Inactive No Manager
    tvCa-Oracle Pro
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    Often the Request is not running in the Manager you think it is. You can check all managers have same Actual and Target, but there will always be some managers down, and those may be the one that is setup to run the Request you want to run. This part is not really good thought about, and you need to run quite detailed SQL statements to even get to know what manager or managers can run a given request. You can go though the include/exclude list of EVERY manager, and you may find out what is wrong here. It can also be interesting to do this anyway, because often surprises are hidden here.

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