If there is, please do. It is almost impossible to cut an paste structured text and reformat or use it in a reasonable way. For example when pasting the output of an RMAN list backup command: The whole text gets infiltrated by tables. It's complete nonsense and not funny!
Please below screenshot as an example:
I'm not sure how it'll look like with rman output, but what I do to copy/paste code is to first paste the code as normal text, then mark it in the reply again and click the 'quote' icon in the editor bar. It don't give you syntax coloring but the code can be read. Sample of code which already has syntax color:
publicvoiddialogListener(DialogEvent dialogEvent) {
if(dialogEvent.getOutcome().equals(DialogEvent.Outcome.ok)) {
// get the binding container
BindingContainer bindings = BindingContext.getCurrent().getCurrentBindingsEntry();
// get an ADF attributevalue from the ADF page definitions
AttributeBinding attr = (AttributeBinding)bindings.getControlBinding("EmailPopup");
Object inputValue = attr.getInputValue();
// set the value into the other attribute
attr = (AttributeBinding)bindings.getControlBinding("Email");
attr.setInputValue(inputValue);
}
}
sample with code without syntax color:
public ExcelHelper()
{
super();
// Get handle to the session scope bean.
ELContext elContext = FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getELContext();
sessionBean =
(SessionBean) FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getApplication().getELResolver().getValue(elContext, null,
"SessionBean");bctx = BindingContext.getCurrent();
dc = bctx.findDataControl("ConfigurableAMDataControl");
securityContext = ADFContext.getCurrent().getSecurityContext();}
Timo
Thanks for responding. That was one of the first options I tried also. Pasting the text into a quote a code block does not make a difference for me. Once the text is pasted and converted to table, only parts of the text can be selected. Also, when responding or commenting from the Inbox, the options are limited since there is no advanced editor -- not that it really helps though.
It may also depend on the browser, but as of the last upgrade, it seems the editor has gotten even worse. I appreciate all the work moniquevdb-Oracle has previously done to address the problems mentioned in List of forum editor issues and bugs, but as far as I can tell, we are back to square one and it was all for nothing.
I'm honestly tired of constantly having to work around silly editor issues. It frequently crashes or captures the text cursor when pasting URL's or using the quote function. I know Monique already mentioned that OTN is considering to replace the editor, but I only believe it once I see it. Reinventing the forum editor.
A working editor is quintessential, but I seriously doubt that Jive is ever going to fix any editor problems. I understand that the majority of "socializing" people don't realize the editor is seriously broken, buy how can such a POS editor ever make it into a production system -- especially considering this is a technical forum and major IT players are using the same product?
Another good example is pasting a simple "df" output:
btw, I manged to achieve what I wanted by copying and pasting the text in parts, but it's not a solution.
If you select Courier New as a font it look OK.
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 16422804 0 16422804 0% /dev
tmpfs 3288388 10172 3278216 1% /run
tmpfs 16441920 90572 16351348 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 5120 4 5116 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 16441920 0 16441920 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
none 16441920 52 16441868 1% /tmp
Anyway, you are right it's not as easy as it should be in a technical forum.
Timo
But I cannot simply select all text and change the font because it is a table. I can only select individual parts inside the table. If you can select the complete text and change the font, then what you have is not a table and not the problem I'm describing. Also, changing the font is only possible in the advanced editor.
The only way I can make this work is by including some text that breaks the structured text logic and prevents the text to table conversion, for example, including the df command as shown below. This way, I can change the font, at least in the advanced editor.
$ df -Ph
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_root 20G 6.5G 12G 36% /
tmpfs 7.7G 600M 7.1G 8% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1 485M 105M 355M 23% /boot
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_home 33G 527M 31G 2% /home
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u01 5.0G 558M 4.2G 12% /u01
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u02 15G 2.1G 13G 15% /u02
/dev/mapper/vg_avalon-lv_u03 30G 3.7G 25G 14% /u03
Otherwise all I get is the following:
I guess this all comes down to the Editor issues anyway, which hopefully Oracle are working on replacing with something that actually works, as you already know.
I'm sure the "text to table" thing is probably great for people who are chatting about business and have some table of data they want to present etc. but clearly Jive hasn't accounted for the fact that their platform may be used for technical discussions with structured text that doesn't need to be messed with automagically.
I have the exact same problem.
Think that tabs (#9) contributes to the problem, and is parsed as column separators.
Work around I use is to quick launch kate (Linux notepad like editor), paste the text into, and from there copy and paste into the OTN editor.
I often copy stuff to TextEdit since I use Mac OS X, which allows me to remove any rich text formatting, including smart quotes and other gremlins. However, it does not help in my case to avoid the automatic table conversion. It probably also depends on the browser. Well, I use Firefox.
Unfortunately there are many more problems with the editor. For example, now that the editor toolbar is persistent when scrolling the screen, I can no longer use the mouse to select content that doesn't fit in one window. So I have to press Shift and use the arrow keys to mark text, which is even more inconvenient than resizing the window to make the toolbar persistent. Who approves these changes?
I understand that OTN has been preparing for the upgrade for many months. Beside all the upgrading, who tested that the software actually works? Is there any combination of OS and browser where the editor actually functions properly, including post editing of text that has been formatted using syntax highlighting? Doesn't the vendor or developer of the product not care whether their software works?
Think you are a bit harsh. Making web applications work when used across different operating systems, different browsers, and by a wide range of users with different experience and knowledge, and for different purposes, are not an easy and straight forward task.
Well, just a bit . However, a working forum editor is quintessential and not rocket science. There are and have been working alternatives, perhaps less fancy, but nevertheless without all these nasty issues. Let's face it, pretty much nothing works reliably or properly, not even the selecting of text and applying fonts, neither does quoting or pasting URL's. Is there any combination of browser and OS where the editor works? I'll be happy to use that in VirtualBox if necessary.
Dude! wrote:
For example, now that the editor toolbar is persistent when scrolling the screen, I can no longer use the mouse to select content that doesn't fit in one window. So I have to press Shift and use the arrow keys to mark text, which is even more inconvenient than resizing the window to make the toolbar persistent.
I do that by starting my selection and, whilst still holding the mouse button down, scrolling the middle wheel which scrolls the text inside the editor and allows me to select more of it.
That's what I did before the editor changes too. Works absolutely fine for me.
That's rather difficult to accomplish when using a trackball -- and it's one of those things I would never want to miss again.
You can also shift-click. Place mouse text cursor at the start of the text to copy. Scroll to the end (without moving the text cursor). Then shift-click to text to highlight text from original text cursor position, to current.
Or use only the keyboard.
Decade or two ago when I did the MSCE exams, my colleagues struggled answer the questions on how to use the Windows GUI with keyboard. I nailed it as I regularly had to fix customer PC's with a non-working mouse, and learned all the GUI hotkeys by accident. Pity that X-Windows do not use the same hotkeys.
