welcome ... and thank you for answering my question concerning Releasedate in your followup ASKTOM-Video!
I very much like how active you are here in the forums at the moment and hope that this will persevere.
You say: "and since 18XE is PDB enabled, you can install different versions of XE in different PDBS. Perfect for testing migration, or doing testing against different APEX versions your company may be supporting."
My question: But, this can make it in the process of installation or need using a dump file post installation of XE 18c?
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but if I understand you correctly - You would install APEX after the installation of 18XE. You would use the standard SQL Scripts provided in the APEX zip download and install APEX into whichever PDB(s) you choose.
Hi Gerald. Congratulations as new XE Manager.
I've seen different post on 18c XE limitations and there are some minor differences.
Could you please review 18c XE limits?
Thanks in advance !!!
Why? Why not?
It’s absolutely valid for everyone to have a personal opinion and - of course - also to stand for it.
And it’s naturally a matter of fact, that such opinion is based on cumulated knowledge, experience and the broadness of personal abilities and the horizon it opens.
I’m pretty sure the product management of XE and APEX are in a very close contact and will made the best ever decision to promote both products best as possible and to lower the burden as much as possible for also - and in particular - unexperienced users to entry the fantastic world of great technologies - and to start, learn and grow.
many thanks for the good news.
Of course, I was not able to find an answer to my question:
Will there be an upgrade path from Oracle-XE 11g2 to Oracle-XE 18c?
As stated in documentation, there seems to be a direct upgrade possibility from Oracle database 220.127.116.11 to Oracle 18c...
But Oracle-XE 11g2 is only 18.104.22.168.
So will there be a documented way to upgrade from XE to XE?
Thank you very much!
I agree with coffee4all. It would not hurt to help us with a tool the process of migration from XE 11gR2 to XE 18c.
As my XE 11g2 database is on Windows, and still not very big (less that 2Gig), but with Apex 18.1, I wonder whether I will be able to just restore to 18c from a backup that I take immediately from 11g2 before installing 18c.
However, still need advice whether that will be possible (or incompatible), and how complete the backups are that are taken with the Windows Oracle Backup tool (Backup.bat using RMAN), or how to take really complete ones (including schemas etc.).
If possible, I would then backup 11g2, stop the database and the listener, install 18c XE, Apex 18.1 on top, and restore my backup to 18c, and voilá - its done.
After see it working, delete/uninstall Oracle-XE 11g2.
Unfortunately I suspect it will be not so easy.
I would like to know if we can use sgbd oracle XE for corporate use?
Anderson A. Silva
As to APEX, we have decided not to include APEX in XE going forward. As it was suggested, I'm indeed in close contact with the APEX team (not only the PM) and together we have reached the conclusion that including APEX would only be of temporary and limited benefit.:
- Temporary because APEX does have a different and more frequent release cycle than Oracle XE. So APEX users will only benefit of having APEX preinstalled until the next release comes out. We also made the observation that many people are still using the by now very old APEX version that ships with 11g XE because, well, it ships with 11g XE and not everybody puts in the extra effort to upgrade to the latest version.
- Limited because not everybody who wants an Oracle Database, in this case Oracle XE, also wants to use APEX. For these users APEX is just an unnecessary component that is downloaded and configured.
@Daniel: You are very welcome!
myluism: Can you share the post that you have seen, please?
coffee4all: There won't be a direct upgrade path but indirect upgrade paths such as SQL Developer transportable tablespaces, export/import are of course available. We will add these steps into the FAQ so that everybody can easily get the data from his 11g XE to 18c XE.
2722489: I'm not sure how you define "corporate use". However, we don't anticipate the licensing to change between 11g XE and 18c XE regarding usage.
No more APEX included? This will be very bad.
From the educational aspect this is a great and important component for beginners.
It is still available, just needs to be downloaded and installed.
Beginners of what?
Ok, not included anymore, but can be installed, right?
Beginners: people who started the first time with Oracle Databases, SQL, writing applications for APEX.
As I understand, APEX is a free tool that you can install on any Oracle database (either EE, SE or XE).
What Gerald meant saying that APEX is not included is that is not included in the release software (he explained very well why) but anyone can download and install in on any supported Oracle database, and that will include 18c XE edition.
Thank you very much Gerald,
if there will be a detailed description how to migrate in the FAQ, thats all that will be needed!