4018809 wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Need some detailed explanation about oracle wrapper with an example please

 

Many Thanks

What are you referring to? Maybe telling us the context you saw the term in would help?

Hi,

here: LMGTFY

You sound exactly like the other guy who excessively points to LMGTFY. Please don't do that. There are more polite ways to encourage someone to do their own research.

Andris

Hi,

I know the "other guy" and I don't support that beheave but this question is so superficial. if you just check google for that very simple search you won't be asking this question as this is. please also check my other replies to others I mostly don't answer like that.

edit: I would like to add one more thing. This kind of questions are kind of abuse of the community. people are trying to help here voluntarily and no one should ask a question without reading faq and "how do I ask question" rules. again, my answer really gives the question for the OP.

Andris Perkons-Oracle wrote:

 

You sound exactly like the other guy who excessively points to LMGTFY.

I don't particularly like the other guy's style either - sometimes he is rude, and sometimes gratuitously so, when the OP is right and the other guy is wrong, which does happen sometimes (not often).

However, I believe his LMGTFY links should be quite helpful to posters (original or otherwise). I never felt that his pointers to LMGTFY in particular were excessive. Do you care to elaborate?

Andris Perkons-Oracle wrote:

 

You sound exactly like the other guy who excessively points to LMGTFY. Please don't do that. There are more polite ways to encourage someone to do their own research.

 

Andris

The problem is people are "lazy" and don't use the Google search OR...the Forum's own search function where they could find the answers MUCH faster, so forum members get frustrated.

Also we have a link on "How to ask a question on the forums" and when posts like this one from the OP are made, with LITTLE to NO information, we post that link for them to read.

Yes, agree with all of you that one would expect that the poster should be able to do at least some minimal research themselves before posting seemingly "easy" questions. But it is all about context (in this particular case, OP just joined the forum a couple of days ago) and about basic politeness. It makes a huge difference telling someone "Please use the community search before posting" or "you should be able to find a quick answer yourself using google" versus "you're lazy and obviously too dumb to use a search engine, so LMGTFY". This type of behaviour drives people looking for help away. Again, OP joined the forum just a couple of days ago, and we don't know what OP has tried before and if it even occured to him/her that this is an easy question.

If it keeps happening over and over, a stern word may be in place. But even then, this can be done in a non-aggressive tone. Or just don't answer at all. But one shouldn't let their frustration out on posters looking for answers.

Andris Perkons-Oracle wrote:

 

Yes, agree with all of you that one would expect that the poster should be able to do at least some minimal research themselves before posting seemingly "easy" questions. But it is all about context (in this particular case, OP just joined the forum a couple of days ago) and about basic politeness. It makes a huge difference telling someone "Please use the community search before posting" or "you should be able to find a quick answer yourself using google" versus "you're lazy and obviously too dumb to use a search engine, so LMGTFY". This type of behaviour drives people looking for help away. Again, OP joined the forum just a couple of days ago, and we don't know what OP has tried before and if it even occured to him/her that this is an easy question.

If it keeps happening over and over, a stern word may be in place. But even then, this can be done in a non-aggressive tone. Or just don't answer at all. But one shouldn't let their frustration out on posters looking for answers.

Agreed but there are SEVERAL members who have been on here for a while that STILL do not follow the guidelines.  One noted example is user Jelly

I choose to ignore hopeless cases. I am not on a mission here. If someone repeatedly does not provide the information needed for a good answer, I wouldn't waste my time.

Andris Perkons-Oracle wrote:

 

I choose to ignore hopeless cases. I am not on a mission here. If someone repeatedly does not provide the information needed for a good answer, I wouldn't waste my time.

Exactly my point. They're "blacklisted" in my book so I offer no help but I do continue to "chastise" them until they get the point.  Others will help (more so to learn for themselves and that's fine, I just choose not to waste my time as I have my real job to worry about).