5 Replies Latest reply on May 26, 2020 6:48 AM by HaoanChen

    Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade

    jkinninger

      Browsing around the Web looking to see how I can upgrade an Oracle Linux 7.8 server running the RHCK kernel to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place I have come up empty. Is this possible? I read several articles about 6 to 7 and found a few articles for RHEL and CentOS but nothing for Oracle Linux.

       

      I did notice there are no Spacewalk channels for OL 8 yet so it doesn't look like I would be able to manage them with Spacewalk yet. I am being tasked to look at the options to upgrade to 8 and I know I'll have a few servers that will request in-place upgrades so going to try this route on a test server to see and document the process. Unfortunately, as I noted above I am unable to find anything about upgrading from 7 to 8 so reaching out to see if in fact this is doable and if so is there a guide or basic steps one needs to take in order to perform this in-place upgrade.

        • 1. Re: Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade
          Dude!

          Spacewalk has become a dead end. See https://spacewalkproject.github.io/

           

          As far as I'm concerned, in-place upgrading is not something I would seriously trust to work correctly. Red Hat ships with a "leapp" tool to accomplish the task, however, as you may have seen, it is very limited. Perhaps it's OK to upgrade a minimum plain vanilla installation, but then why bother? Why potentially increase the odds of a carefully configured and working system for the sake of upgrading? What is this supposed to fix? Recent releases of RHEL have been fundamentally different, and you also need to look at hardware and other application requirements.

           

          As I recall, it's one of the advantages of the UEK kernel that you can use a newer version without the need to upgrade the OS release version.

          • 2. Re: Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade
            jkinninger

            That sucks about Spacewalk. Does Oracle have another plan for customers to manage their Linux environments? I'm sure it is just a matter of time before some twit finds and exploits Spacewalk and then my InfoSec Team will shut down my running instance of Spacewalk.

             

            I guess with Oracle Linux 7 support lasting until July 2024 I'll ride out the version 7 for a couple more years. I always prefer clean builds but my application support teams would rather do in-place upgrades. Before Oracle Linux we ran SUSE (SLES) and I was pretty successful upgrading 9 to 10 and 10 to 11 but then systemd came along and had to perform clean installations. I guess time will tell but man, that is not good news.

            • 3. Re: Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade
              Dude!

              In case you missed it, there was a recent discussion you may find interesting:

               

              Any plans on rebuilding a newer Spacewalk version than 2.7?

               

              Well, what can you do? Perhaps there are too many cooks and too many solutions competing with another. Someone at Red Hat does perhaps not consider existing knowledge a reasonable investment. There is too much money in the cloud and the gap of interests between vendors and and end-users just keeps growing, unless you are a newbie. Why "selling" a product and convincing customers, when you can simply force it down people's throat? But that's probably all just my own personal observation or imagination.

              • 4. Re: Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade
                Avi Miller-Oracle

                Two questions: first, there is no supported upgrade path from OL7 to OL8. You will need to reinstall the operating system. Second, we are still working on releasing Spacewalk 2.10 which will have limited support for Oracle Linux 8 clients. We will also be announcing our roadmap for Linux management when we release Spacewalk 2.10.

                • 5. Re: Oracle Linux 7.8 to Oracle Linux 8.2 in-place upgrade
                  HaoanChen

                  Recently upgraded my open-source version from Spacewalk 2.9 to Spacewalk 2.10, everything looks fine but only issue I have is "can not kickstart new any version 8 client", which included Oracle/CentOS/RHEL 8.x (don't have SUSE repo set up yet)...

                   

                  Tested all different versions (8.0 - 8.2) thought all three distributers, new client kickstart will get stuck up "Error: Installation Sources", assume due to the version 8.x changed from /Packages to /BaseOS/Packages and  /AppStream/Packages two different locations.

                   

                  As long as I built those version 8.x client via DVD with minimum configurations ( or clone from template ), they can be included new Spacewalk 2.10 and managed as normal.