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If memory serves, the same login page is used for both OTN and for a variety of other Oracle-related sites, including some internal sites. So I'd wager that the decision was made for those sites that require more security and the effect on OTN users was a side-effect.
So while certainly not ideal, I'm not sure that it's necessarily ridiculous.
Still no excuse IMO Justin. They are certainly capable of dishing up a different logon page based from where the web browser (internet or intranet) comes from.
I do not see any technical reasons for this - which means the reasons are from the idiot management level. Like treating external users and OTN the same as internal users using other "more secure" web sites.
And I'm not going to be "kind" about it. It is stupid. Plain and simple. This is Oracle.. one of the largest and arguably one of the best software houses in the world. And they can't get a darn logon page right for their external users using public OTN forums!!! Come. The. Hell. On.
It is not acceptable.
Just a side note: by forcing a user to log in, and log in again each 12 hours, you are reaosnably assured that comments made are by the user and not by someone who happened to steal the computer. Then the defense of "I didn't say that - anyone could have ued my account" becomes rather thin.
Which could be required if an employee started making comments in violation of the employee contract.
Or if they ever decided to crack down on individuals who repeatedly violate the forum agreement with their remarks.
First of all, as the OP, I'd like to say that I'm over this. The GreaseMonkey script appears to work. I don't need to beat this any longer. I don't expect this to change.
In any case, the session termination timeout has nothing to do with how the login page works.
In addition, if an employee somehow claimed that someone stole their login because they left it logged in in a publicly accessible area, Oracle should suspend that employee's posting rights just for that reason only. The "safe" steps, from a corporate point of view, are simply to specify appropriate behavior, including steps to prevent security loss. If the employee obviously didn't follow those procedures, then Oracle should have no trouble suspending that user's posting rights (or other priviledges).
Note that I am not limiting my discussion to employees.
There are a number of posts that skirt the edge of moral, civil or even legal conduct. If push came to shove, it is possible that some law suits could arise over some of the material posted. By requiring login and having expiry, the field of responsibility and ownership is narrowed.
Now if Geasemonkey would only work in IEeeeee, the ARrrrrrgh would be minimized for me.
Unless I'm missing a previous conversation about this, no one here is suggesting that they remove the requirement to log in or have an expiring session. I have no issue with either of those, and I'm certain I would prefer that we DID have to log in (nothing's more annoying than having to reenter your info each time you post).
I assume your desire to have GM work in IE is due to a requirement that you only use IE at work. Not much you can do about that. I use FF for almost everything, and some pages that require IE work fine with the IETab plugin in FF. I spend 5 minutes a day in IE.
Unless I'm missing a previous conversation aboutThere are actually several conversations going on here. That's pretty normal in these forums. Until we get the mechanism to close threads, you might want to prepare yourself for the possibility of any thread being hijacked - especially for soapbox issues.
this, no one here is suggesting that they remove the
requirement to log in or have an expiring session. I
have no issue with either of those, and I'm certain I
would prefer that we DID have to log in (nothing's
more annoying than having to reenter your info each
time you post).
Several of us (including myself) are annoyed that we have to log in again and again. I didn't write all my responses in one sitting, and the implication is a lot of logins. I've just about got mine memorizsed. <g>
I assume your desire to have GM work in IE is due toNah - you assume wrong. 99% of my browser time is in Firefox. Which makes the occasional use of Internet Explorer even more annoying.
a requirement that you only use IE at work. Not much
you can do about that. I use FF for almost
everything, and some pages that require IE work fine
with the IETab plugin in FF. I spend 5 minutes a day