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      • 75. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
        Hi Johann,

        Why do you act like being a Socialist country an insult?

        Many people are proud to hail from socialist countries . . .

        Regardless of the real truth, millions of people harbor the misconception that Sweden is a socialist country:


        Why is that?
        Every American i have meet has had this opinion, but i guess its just back luck...
        It's not bad luck.

        Actually, many Americans have a far worse opinion of Sweden, especially older Americans who remember how Sweden did not help the Allies fight Hitler.

        Some people even say that Sweden supported the Nazi war effort during the Holocaust . . .


        It's history, maybe over time the hatred will fade . . .

        Like I said, I love Sweden, it's a beautiful country with friendly people . . .
        • 76. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
          God morning burleson,

          I dont get offended if someone say that Sweden is socialist cuntry, but communist... i will. :)

          Regarding the World War II; im sure some people say that, and its true, our friends Finland are even more mad at us. But this was a decision made by our goverment, later on thousands of Swedes voluntarily helped Finland in a war that Sweden didnt participate in. And its also true that Sweden did nothing against Hitler, we could not. So we let him use our train rails. If we would have refused he would have bombed us to stone age....

          Also i would like to say that i like America. Many people here in Sweden are real socialist and think USA is world wide police, but i am glad you are.. i prefer you as world police compared to say .. Russia or China. Also im glad that you helped stop Hitler, but you have and had the power to. Sweden have nothing of your strenght when it comes to military.

          "Some people even say that Sweden supported the Nazi war effort during the Holocaust"
          Well this is not true, havent you read about "The white bus operation" performed by Sweden?

          Best, J
          • 77. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
            Johann von Ohr wrote:
            ... Also im glad that you helped stop Hitler, but you have and had the power to.
            Some might say it's a shame to have turned up so late though ;)
            • 78. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
              Jonathan Lewis
              Jonathan Lewis wrote:
              burleson wrote:
              Just bringing things back to the technical arena:

              The interested reader might also want to [+*follow this link*+|http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wx6OmllCfIkC&lpg=PP7&dq=%22Implement%20cursor%20sharing%22&pg=PA132#v=onepage&q=%22Implement%20cursor%20sharing%22&f=false] where they could read the same story in your "Silver Bullets" book (published 2005).
              If you do [+*follow that link*+|http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wx6OmllCfIkC&lpg=PP7&dq=%22Implement%20cursor%20sharing%22&pg=PA132#v=onepage&q=%22Implement%20cursor%20sharing%22&f=false] then scroll down a few pages to page 143 (ignore any intervening errors) there's this interesting little item: a script awr_top_tables_phyrd.sql+ which is supposed to +"expose the top 5 tables accessed most heavily by diskreads"+.

              The code has a predicate: p.object_type like '%TABLE%' but given the join to dba_hist_sqlstat it clearly isn't going to do what the author says. Now take a look at the following page where the results are quite remarkable:

              Note first how two of the objects reported under the table-name column are: con_uk and orders_fk. Do you think that this might be from a naming convention for Unique indexes and foreign key indexes ? Does this mean that the output didn't come from running the query ?

              The strangest line, though, holds the table-name x$kzsro. By some strange coincidence this application seems to have named a table with an obscure bunch of characters that matches exactly one of the internal memory structures used by Oracle. After all, it can't be the real x$kzsro because that object doesn't have any disk blocks to read - and this report says it's in the top five.

              Jonathan Lewis

              To post code, statspack/AWR report, execution plans or trace files, start and end the section with the tag {noformat}
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              • 79. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                ignore any intervening errors
                There are no errors.
                Do you think that this might be from a naming convention for Unique indexes and foreign key indexes ?
                You and Charles Hooper should get together, boirds of a feather, more interested in nitpicking than any real concepts.

                The examples are ILLUSTRATIVE. OBFUSCATED real output.

                If you actually had a job using Oracle, you would understand that you cannot disclose company detsils.

                I've sold THOUSANDS OF COPIES of this book, and you are the only person on the planet to even notice, much less complain.

                It's a "personal attack", rude and inconsiderate to dirsrupt threads with inane and incorrect book reviews that have NOTHING to do with the topic . . .

                You should be embarassed by your lack of professional conduct.
                • 80. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                  Ho Johann,
                  I dont get offended if someone say that Sweden is socialist cuntry
                  Here, the right-wing nutjobs use "socialism" like it was a dirty word!
                  USA is world wide police
                  Not by choice! But somebody has to do do it!
                  Also im glad that you helped stop Hitler, but you have and had the power to.
                  Thanks. My Dad fought in WWII, and I lost several relatives to the Axis . . . . .


                  We will have to do lunch next time I'm over in Sweden.
                  • 81. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                    Mr. Lewis,

                    I purchased Don Burleson's Silver Bullets reference a few months ago and have been using it consistently ever since. I'm not finding any of these errors you are complaining of.

                    Perhaps you are looking at an older version. In my experience, I have found that Google Books is not the best place to reference technical time-sensitive information.

                    • 82. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                      Mark Williams-Oracle

                      Are there multiple editions of the book? Or do you mean by "older version" that the version on Google Books is a pre-print version? Does the printed version you have not contain the "sample output from the above script" as it is presented in the Google Books version on page 144? I don't have the book so I can't easily compare.



                      Edited by: Mark Williams on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM to add the page number
                      • 83. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                        Hi Mark,
                        Does the printed version you have not contain the "sample output from the above script" as it is presented in the Google Books version on page 144?
                        Please don't dignify this nonsense. His "errors" are just gibberish, an attempt to ruin my reputation with non-issues.

                        Please be clear, this is a PERSONAL ATTACK, just like the false attack Lewis published against Rich Niemiec on Amazon:


                        In the above example, ALL of his "errors" were bogus, and NONE of them appeared in the 11g edition of the book.

                        Plus, by not disclosing that he is a competing book author, Lewis has committed a serious ethics beech.

                        It's EXACTLY the same reason why Oracle sued SAP. Illegal, unethical and imoral business practices:


                        +"SAP has been engaged in a systematic program of unfair, unlawful, and deceptive business practices that continues to this day.+

                        +Through its illegitimate and illegal business practices, SAP has taken Oracle’s Software and Support Materials and apparently used them to insinuate itself into Oracle’s customer base, and to attempt to convert these customers to SAP software applications."+

                        Are there multiple editions of the book?
                        Of course. All books have errata, plus we try to keep them current between reprints, and the Rampant staff keeps a note of all "real" errata:

                        • 84. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                          burleson wrote:

                          It's a "personal attack"
                          Pointing out technical problems/issues/areas of contention/mistakes in a book are not a personal attack. Subject matter in the book was scrutinised and discussed. There were no abusive remarks aimed at you. No statement that said "+*Don Burleson is an idiot*+" or even inferred that you are.

                          I fail to see any sign of an attack on the person Don Burleson. I do however see a major overreaction to technical comments made and technical issues raised.
                          • 85. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                            Let's see - you only have 2 postings thus far on OTN. One attacking Jonathan Lewis and the under defending Don Burleson.

                            And you just happen by chance to stumble on this thread.. despite 100's of 1000's of other of OTN threads? And then felt that you just had to jump into the middle of this?

                            And despite OTN's focus being technical problems and technical assistance, you came here to offer neither. Instead you, with your very first post, attack Lewis and with your second post proclaim the greatness of a Burleson's book?

                            And we are to believe that you have a subjective opinion that can be taken into consideration?

                            Kind of insulting to our intelligence to think that by posing as a bystander, you can influence this discussion - when you very obviously not here on OTN to either assist or ask for assistance.
                            • 86. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                              There were no abusive remarks aimed at you.
                              Wrong. He called my work "disgraceful".

                              Beside, what's a book review doing, plopped into the middle of a discussion oin another topic?

                              Only somebody of Lewis's caliber would do that.
                              Subject matter in the book was scrutinised and discussed.
                              Nope. He even admits that he has never read the book!

                              Is this you Jonathan, under yet another alias?
                              • 87. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                                Erm, it's Billy, I'm sure you know him ;) and it's easy to find that out in one single click.....
                                • 88. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                                  user1148640 wrote:
                                  burleson wrote:

                                  It's a "personal attack"
                                  Pointing out technical problems/issues/areas of contention/mistakes in a book are not a personal attack.
                                  Correct, though this author does not distinguish between the two and uses any criticism as an excuse to drag the discussion into personal attacks, discussions about legality, politics racism etc apparently to distract attention from the technical inaccuracies.

                                  Nothing of value is added in this way and the only technical references in the posts are links back to commercial sites to generate ad revenues and game search engine rankings.

                                  It's a shame this discussion forum is constantly polluted in this way, but I suppose it will continue to be while it is cheaper than paying for advertising.
                                  • 89. Re: Finding appropriate block size?
                                    hoek wrote:
                                    Erm, it's Billy, I'm sure you know him ;) and it's easy to find that out in one single click.....
                                    Te veel moeite vir die persoon.. en veel makliker om te beskuldig.

                                    I usually can read Dutch pretty well.. always wondered if the reverse is true? :-)
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