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Not able to query _GRP2ROLE_VBA_USER role

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We are trying to build a report to include employee roles and privileges and we are not able to report "_GRP2ROLE_VBA_USER" role while using PER_ROLES_DN and PER_ROLES_DN_TL. The role is displayed only when we use ASE_ROLE_VL. But we found a community link saying that we should not use ASE_ROLE_VL tables to report roles. Below is the link of the community. If we are not advised to not use the ASE_ROLE_VL table then which table will report the _GRP2ROLE_VBA_USER role.

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