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11gr2 Standby database simple question

Hi i have an 11.2.0.3 standby for a primary database 11.2.0.3 and they are sync
the problem is when i open standby database and then enable recovery database becomes mount !!! (like 10g and this is 11g R2 standby database )
for example by any of

ALTER DATABASE RECOVER  database managed standby database disconnect;
ALTER DATABASE RECOVER MANAGED STANDBY DATABASE NODELAY DISCONNECT;
ALTER DATABASE RECOVER MANAGED STANDBY DATABASE DISCONNECT FROM SESSION;


also when standby database is mount when i want to connect to rman i get below error

RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
RMAN-00569: =============== ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===============
RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
RMAN-00554: initialization of internal recovery manager package failed
RMAN-04005: error from target database:

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