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Is any development happening on DVD product?

Msharma

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Is any development happening on DVD product?

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Since the launch of DVD, updates have been quite frequent (every 2-3 months apart). Since the Jan 2017 update, there hasn't been any new updates?

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jepva

I would rather they focus on actually fixing the existing bugs and implementing some basic features (like better file management / saving - right now business user can't even figure out how to export and import dva projects on desktop, it is way too complicated).

The feature gap isn't as big as it seems, DVD is missing some more granular features (like ability to adjust font sizes, colors, text etc.) but for only being around 2 years, comparing to Tableau which has been around 10+ years it has a good feature set for such a new project. For example, trellis views are implemented for almost every graph type where as you can't even do this in Power BI yet without a 3rd party plug-in I believe.

It does need a built-in data engine for processing. Anything with large rows is pretty slow in DVD - we've found using the on-premise with XSA cache is faster for larger datasets. I don't know why Oracle did not use something like Oracle XE built into DVD, but maybe that is down the road.

SPowell42

The odd thing is: I thought the DVD product essentially contained a desktop version of the OBIEE server. It "should" be able to do pushdown already...

Scott

[Deleted User]

Pretty sure they just disabled all the DB features

Msharma

On paper it does claim to have a desktop version of bi server but not in reality!

Gianni Ceresa

In the background the bi server is there, but it all depends how you integrate things

As Christian said: even on a full OBIEE you can easily have the BI server to just do SELECT of columns without pushing down a single thing and doing the full job itself.

Of course we aren't supposed to look into that and the tool ...

[Deleted User]

That's exactly what I meant. And of course I didn't look at the tool in such detail because that's not what we're supposed to do - I agree :-P

Msharma

i think it will be interesting to see how DVD handles advanced analytics R scripts from a pushdown standpoint because there is no true push down for this in BI server too. If you have oracle advanced analytics license on oracle relational db then it might be ok but if you data sitting in a hadoop environment then you are out of luck. Unless, you move data from hadoop to oracle which defeats the purpose of having data in hadoop. In last years OOW, I saw a slide that DVD will be able to do function shipping for machine learning api's in R or SPARK. With the current pace of development, I dont think its happening any time soon!

Gianni Ceresa

FYI: I saw somewhere DVD v3 is supposed to be released in the next weeks (2-3 in theory).

They demoed and talked about it at Kscope17 yesterday.

There are some nice new things like ODBC/JDBC support (in theory again) etc.

Let's wait for it and see what's inside

[Deleted User]

Sticky featured content ?

Msharma

typo with my earlier post - I meant DVD still chokes on decent sized data set.

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