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How to Skip the Manager of the Hiring Manager Approval

We have a requirement where the "Manager of the Hiring Manager" created/drafted the Job Requsition, and the "Recruiter" will be submitting the Job Requisition after filling up some information. Our approval rule is using "Manager Hierarchy" from Approval Chain of 'Hiring Manager'. The Requirement is to skip whoever Created/Drafted and Submitted the Job Requisition for approval. On this scenario we able to skip whoever submitted using "Prohibit User Self-Approval". However, we have problem skipping the one who created/drafted the Job Requisition as there is no available Payload attribute from the BPM to call that user - also we cannot

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