Implementing MUDE (Multi-User Development Environment) in OAC

Mark.Thompson

What is Oracle's vision for enabling organizations to implement the MUDE for OAC?

Background: In an on-premise OBIEE system, we license the software.  Because we have a license, we can install OBIEE on our developer's machines, and they can work in the normal MUD 'Check out a Project' --- 'Publish to Network' environment. 

Today: Under the covers, OAC is OBIEE 12.2.1.2.0.  We are physically able to run in a MUD environment by installing OBIEE 12.2.1.2.0 on our developer's machines, with everything working exactly as it did for the on-prem.  The repository is still good old OBIEE, and we have not run into any problems with refreshing the model in OAC from an OBIEE 12.2.1.2.0 repository developed in the developer machines.  It seems to not care - works great.

But we want to make sure we are completely on the up-and-up, that we aren't doing anything "naughty".  So the question: For an Oracle customer who pays for OAC on a subscription basis (i.e. no OBIEE "license" per-se), is it still permissible for that customer to work with the same MUD strategy as described above?  Is it allowable to download, install, and run OBIEE 12.2.1.2.0 as a developer who is feeding the OAC system?  If not, what is Oracle's vision for enabling multi-user repository development in OAC?

Robert Angel

Hi,

With all such queries the best advice is speak to your Oracle Account Manager.

You think the technology can be complex, wait until you see the licensing...

Mark.Thompson

And that complexity is why our Oracle Account Manager has the same question.  It SEEMS logical to both of us that the same path should be no big deal, but we are looking for confirmation.

Gianni Ceresa

This isn't an official Oracle answer or based on something factual ...

My feeling is that you aren't allowed to have a dev server just because you have OAC. OAC is a cloud thing and if you want a dev server if will more be a cloud based thing (like another instance or running an OBIEE instance in the container cloud service or things like that). Storage of your RPD etc. will all be in cloud services.

But as Oracle Licensing has nothing fixed and everything is flexible based on what you negotiate .... difficult to have a format answer. It will probably depends a lot on how good you are when negotiating with Oracle

Mark.Thompson

Thanks for the reply, Gianni.

We're OK with a cloud-based answer.  For example, if we need to create Oracle Cloud VMs and install OBIEE in them, that's fine.  (We're currently using AWS, so it shouldn't be a big deal to just replicate at Oracle).  We're just trying to keep the cost down, and Oracle's quote isn't helping.  They are quoting machines that will cost over $1000 per month running 200 hours per month, with huge amounts of RAM and disk space and an installation of OAC.  We don't need that - it's overkill and way more expensive than it needs to be.  All we need to be able to do is the same thing we could do in OBIEE, without paying an arm and a leg to do it.

"Depends on how good you are when negotiating with Oracle."  I know that's the truth, but still, it sucks.

C'mon, Oracle, somebody give me a good, official answer.  What is the vision for implementing a MUDE in OAC?